[/quote] Johno - I did get a chance to go over to gunsinternational.com and took a look at all the Remington 14's and 141's listed there. What they heck - do these sellers think they have Savages or what? I was surprised at how pricey most were. Puglisi's had a, "clean" one for around $2500, LeRoy Merz had some showing some wear for about $1700. There were lesser ones there as well but it sure looks like when a guy finds a decent one of these priced reasonable, he would be wise to pick it up. By the way, I was reminded how much I like the M14 carbine. They didn't make a carbine (that I can recall) in the M141. Also, I like the M14 and 1/2 carbine real well too, but I didn't see any examples listed. How often do run into any of these pumps down your way? [/quote]

Randy - I had mentioned my fondness for the Remington M14 Carbine several pages back. I had seen the one Merz had listed. It's a big price but you just don't see them very much anymore. I remember a time they would pop up every now and then, not any more. By the way, I'll bet everyone has learned something who has read this whole thread. There's been lots of stuff I sure didn't know. Everything from Remington M760's in .30 M1 Carbine and .22 Hornet, to all the patent stuff Gary and Gene posted smile