Wel here is one for ya... When my Pastor saw the terminal damage and quick kill that his 223 wrought upon a large Corsican ram that his daughter shot last year with a new to him 223 and Barnes VorTex ammo, he traded to me his Model 88 in 243 that had been his daughters deer rifle. I gave him a PMR 30 for it and promptly re sold the model 88. Now, they (FOUR of them- daughters that is) will be usuing the 223 as the family deer rifle. He also sold his 300WSM and is back to his trusty 270 with 110gr Barnes bullets for big game hunting.

The game HAS been changed by todays much better bullets.

LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports.

About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500