i had a sporter in 30-06 that with 49grs of h4895 under a 168 NBT turned in a 3 shot clover leaf just over a quarter inch center to center( that was with a far better shot then i behind the trigger.)and thats not internet bs.that rifle is at the top of the list of guns i wish i hadnt sold. and everyone one i;ve sold customers come back with similar stories a this the posts in this thread

.358 Norma Mag. enough said.