By the way, Ingwe, you're a dog trainer, right? I don't want to hijack this thread any more than it already is, but what is the best dog to train to track but not give voice? Growing up my dad had hounds, but they're bred to bay. I raised and hunted with Chessies years ago, but they're not trackers by any stretch. I was thinking one of the continental utility dogs - you know, Wirehair or Visla or something like that - but not sure if they give voice on a game trail. What do you think?