Originally Posted by 4ager
I have it and can provide it. I asked what you wanted/needed and will accept. You refuse to answer that question. It appears that there can be only two reasons for that: 1) you don.'to understand the subject enough to even know what you want or need, and/or 2) you won't believe or won't accept anything that dispels the crap spewed by that hack (and obviously the lies you have convinced yourself to believe).

You don't want facts, and you don't want discussion. You want to believe in a conspiracy that doesn't exist becomes it confirms to your worldview. Have fun with that and the mental masturbation that stems from the same.
I'm afraid you're mistaken. I don't have a dog in this fight either. You're making a huge and unfounded assumption that I'm "all in" with the Keiser position. I only said that I found it compelling, assuming the facts he laid out were accurate.

PS Your question No. 1 makes little sense to me, since all I've asked for was a refutation. That can take a multitude of forms, not just one that I can imagine in advance. I've given you one example already of a response that I found cogent. What made it cogent was that it first established that the answerer understood the issue in question, and then responded that the information needed to refute (or confirm) it isn't generally available.