Originally Posted by heavywalker
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Originally Posted by heavywalker
I'll give you a hint Walt. It isn't the EO's that are a problem. Everyone here realizes that they have been a tool for the Executive Branch to govern for long before any of us were around. However it is the intent to circumvent the checks and balances within our system and the effects those orders will have that are alarming.

Get it?





Got it...

Do yo think it has anything to do with the lack of meaningful legislation coming out of the GOP controlled house that has caused this circumvention issue? The house has chosen to offer nada-nothing, zip in the past 6 years thus we have EO run a muck.

Get it?


The house has offered up plenty of bills, that would advance the countries interest. Your boy Reid refuses to put them up to a vote and your Man Obama will veto them if they pass.

Remember when the government shut down back in 2013 Walt?

Remember that the R's put forth a bill that would have kept the Government running but has a provision to push back the Ocare mandate because the system was not ready?

Do you remember that Obama came out and said he would veto any such bill?

Do you remember that he publicly called the GOP terrorists for putting such a provision in the bill?

Do you remember how he allowed the government to shut down because he said he wouldn't negotiate with Terrorists?

Do you remember the Governement shutting down and him blaming the R's?

Do you remember that shortly after a bill was passed to get the government back up and running that Obama pushed back the deadline for the mandate?

Now do you think that Obama has at any point tried to reach out to the R's and work with them to get a reasonable bill through or do you think it is always Obama's way or nothing?

Now that may give you a glimpse of why nothing has came out of the house has passed in the last 4 years, if it makes them look good Obama won't do it, if it isn't what obama wants he won't budge, if he don't get his way he throws a tantrum. He leads like a petulant child, and nothing can get done with that type of leadership.



What this country needs right now is a leader. Not just a leader who will work with congress to get things done collectively - bipartisanly- (exactly not how the ACA was accomplished), but a leader who will bring the American people together on common ground. All of these ideals are just exactly the opposite of what we have in Obama. He does and always has appealed only and pandered to his base. He really doesn't care about the rest. And he has no clue about what diplomacy is or how to go about it. He is so lacking in the basics of human social skills that he has no idea how he comes across just in the simple words he phrases together when speaking. He is a man of very shallow experience. His delivery skills fooled plenty of people and it was early foreshadowed in the early aftermath of his nominating speech back at the Democratic convention.


Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.