I use both MMP and Harvester sabots. It all depends on the bore to me. My smokeless rigs prefer mostly Harvesters. Del is very aware of my opinion and he likes to hear the truth.

Been around a long time but since going mostly smokeless im more active on Dougs. just like the rest of us. That doesn't mean i don't still know lots of folks on MM though.

I even used to chat with Randy and Toby before they became douche bags. Randy though has gotten much more laid back and toned down his attitude on the few forums he posts on. Toby is still a total arse hole IMO.