You raise excellent points in both those posts.

Down here by me I've been encouraged to see the NFS doing some clear cutting in areas where there has been a lot of climax forest. I don't know how much of that has taken place in the UP but seems like a no brainer-win/win from both revenue & habitat management perspectives.

Tim (MRK) made reference to having seasons for non-modern equipment which could help w/ over harvest due to ease of kills w/ crossbows/in-lines etc, but it seems like more small & localized DMUs that'd allow managers to particularize the issue of tags (both buck & doe) would help with that also.

As far as bait and older methods of hunting I completely see your point. I personally bait at a couple of stands on private land that is surrounded by (currently standing) crops for that exact reason, though I never expect to fill buck tags only doe over bait; I put buck stands around but not over bait.

Great discussion all!