Originally Posted by Mule Deer
bellydeep,

Aside from the thinness of the barrel when rebored to .35, Nosler's data only gives 225's 2600 fps in the .338-06 because they only tried 4 powders, while their .35 Whelen 225-grain data includes 10 powders. Both Barnes and Hornady show 2700 for the .338-06 with 225's.

The Whelen's capable of about 3% more velocity when both rounds are loaded to the same pressure. Using the 225 AccuBond as an example in both rounds, loaded to 2700 in the .338-06 and 2800 in the .35 Whelen, the .33 caliber catches up in velocity at about 200 yards, and the gap widens beyond there. Oh, and the .338-06 kicks a little less, because the bullet isn't started as fast.

Elmer Keith noticed this longer-range advantage for .33 caliber bullets about 75 years ago, the reason he developed the .333 OKH and "quit" the .35 Whelen. This doesn't mean the .35 Whelen's a bad cartridge, just that muzzle velocity doesn't tell the entire story, especially when it's only from one source of loading data.



Bullets matter farrrrrrrr more than headstamps. Hint.

The .35 can't begin to hang,on ANY level...in a like sized case. The .338" 250 Scenar has a .675BC,full stop,end of story,35's are dog schit.

Now the bane of L/A Montuckies are their rather trite mag confines,which can,will and do affect boolit selection...which can,will and do upset the cart. That fact is rather unfortunate and as diameter goes up,boolits get longer(when talking meaningful BC's) and the door slams shut even tighter.

Beings Joe Average(s) ain't very fhuqking bright(understatement),their lead in "thought",is going to be that "BC doesn't matter",which is hilarious. Nope...funnier than that. Ping Pong Ball Launchers can't hang. Re-hint.

The overlooked .338" 250 Skinner is a phenom and at a paltry 2500fps launch,from a 200yd zero in a 5000' atmosphere of 70% humidity at 29.92,it'll reach the 1000yd line retaining an amazing 1555fps(less than 1000fps loss in transit) and drift but 57" in a full value 10mph wind. 'Course that threshold will fly over pointy heads,but a boolit's starting mannerisms,ain't nearly as important as it's finishing mannerisms and a .675BC(JBM Silver Skinner inputs) greedily clings on to it's speed and slips atmospherics wickedly. Mouths will be agape and noone will be able to correlate the Magnificence Ratio at any/all distances,from powder burns to the transonic slips,which only adds to the humor. The upside being of course,that there is NO downside. Tough to beat them "odds". It's comforting to know,that a 1" 6x42 has the moxy to literally hang,as well as the erector travel requisite to do as one pleases,beings the transition from zero to 1K,is sub 31MOA. 'Course that too,will sail well above heads.

As per always,it's impossible to get giddy about lazy twists,misaligned COAL constraints or botched throats...if only because them are the dots that shine brightest when connected and the ONLY way to arrange the warm/fuzzy.

A .473" L/A Montucky's best use for dot connection,is in 6-06/6-06AI,because slickery BC's come at a lesser length.

Not that numerous dropped balls and disconnected dots,don't swoon Sheep and Ping Pong Ball Launchers,due the multiple insulating layers of their ignorance.

But hey...it IS funny.(grin)

Pass the OEM Montucky 7-08 and 162's at 2700fps.

Hint.................



(Addendum: as my crummy is warming up and coffee brewing)

The 210PT is a common theme,which is constantly hilarious. Assuming a 2700fps launch with it,in the above cited atmosphere and like zero,it has a 40fps advantage in impact velocity at 200yds over the Skinner.

At 400yds the 250 has a better than 100fps impact velocity advantage(arriving faster at 500yds,than the 210 do at 400yds) and drifts 50% less. 'Course then it gets REAL ugly.

Boolits fhuqk with heads and it amazes me,how many are in such great hurries to drop soooooooo many balls and build themselves into numerous corners.

Though I do enjoy the humor!(grin)

No feat to flop MPAJ,dope a scope and arrange POA/POI intersections of meaningful BC's,as one pleases.

BUT...you gotta do it,in order to do it.

Hint.................



(RE-'dendum: The first (2) creeks are looooowwwwww)

'Lanche,

FACTS is VERY fhuqking funny. Perhaps wax eloquent on COAL latitude,boolit selection,throat geometry,twist rate and conjoin the belly laughs with some pics of the meldings...if only to reiterate obliviously,that which reliably escapes your faculties.

Never been tough to cypher,who shoots more than a smidge and to the confounding chagrin of Window Lickers fhuqking everywhere...Pretend ain't Real,no matter how feverishly they Imagine it to be.

You're doing "great" and really gave that POS some serious "thought"!

Laughing!...................