Haha I hear ya on the weight thinng for sure Brad. I will say doing load work ups at 12x was nice for certain compared to the 7x I am used to on a lot of rifles. I may swap things up to a 2-7x33 yet especially once it got my load dialed in. Save the extra 7 oz and make it under 5 pounds 11 oz scoped which will make it even more of a joy to carry and only 3 oz more than my UL 308 Kimber. Which makes me wonder how often the 308 will get the nod when they are sitting next to each other in the safe.