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ShadeTree you've hit the nail on the head, but are trying to explain it to a box of hammers. Kind of a full circle thing....
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I think Jorge's above post succinctly answers the question.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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I hunt with a 300 Weatherby and it kills whatever I shoot.
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I know I'm probably gonna get hammered for this, but to this day I don't understand the all in "magnum" crowd. Especially for deer hunting but in my view it could even extend to bear and elk except in cases of having the same energy at greater distances. - - - - The firearms that others own and use are none of your business so you are not required to 'understand' them. - - - you have missed the point, which is stop being a judgemental prick and leave other peoples choices alone ShadeTree - now you went and did it - you attracted a guy (the guy?) who does not address the topic at hand but who will tell you what is and is not your business, what or what not you are required to understand, and will judge you as a "judgemental (sic) prick". Seemingly he thinks he knows you well, but did you have to bring him into this? Your bum still sore huh?
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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No, you have missed the point, which is stop being a judgemental prick and leave other peoples choices alone.
Good grief man, have a cup of coffee. It's a debate about guns, learning, ballistics,etc, on a HUNTING forum. I learned some things and seen some good points made. And would get along just fine with several that are obvious magnum fans. If you don't want to participate, then dont. Sigh...you just don't understand. JS, I think you're over-understanding the post.  Naw L2S, just a play on the original post, and a touch of boredom.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Nah! Doesn't happen - simply immune. Am appreciating the good folks on here and enjoying giving figs.
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As Long as somone is willing to buy then why not build and sell them...I agree with you compleatly I dearly love the 30-06 for most hunting situations and never leave home without one as at least a backup...there is a nich market for magnum class rifles and there are times when the 06 just won't preform well....one of my farms has a river bottom field I hunt where the potential of an 800 yd shot could be made with the right equipment....I usually Cary the a custom l61 r sako in 300 why....farthest to date is a tad over 400 and those 200 gr AB s hit hard even at that range.....the 06 is capable at 400 but not much further ... The 30-06 is capable of far more than 400 yards if you know what you are doing and can shoot worth a damn.
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I only own one magnum. A 300 WM. I don't think I've fired it in 6-8 years now, But... I like it for two things I set it up to do. It's Good to go out to 500 yards and it is a hoot to shoot with Barnes 130s in it. When you start smacking deer with a bullet moving over 3500 FPS it produces different results. My experience is that I see a difference with velocity increases of at least 300 FPS and 400 is better. 200 FPS is not really noticeable to me in most cases. I could set it up to do a lot more than 500, but the mono bullets I shoot now don't do so well out there, for that kind of range cup and core is about the only option. That said, Shoot light to very light for caliber monos at very high velocities and getting very superior penetration is sort of like the performance we used to get out of 50s/60s/70s magnums.
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