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There is more at stake here then brand loyalty. I will, with out a doubt, from now on consider to the best of my ability how my spent dollars will impact politics. I can not in good conscience support the UAW-democratic machine.

How much longer do you think you will have a choice? Obama hands the big 3 over to the UAW and if card check passes there is the possibility of the other car makers that make cars in the US going union as well.

Never owned a Chrylser product. Currently own a 2000 Ford F-250 Powerstroke Diesel and a 2007 Chevy 1/2 ton 4wd.

My next purchase will possibly be of a foreign make for the regular running around vehicle but the tow vehicle will have to still get the nod to a 3/4+ truck.

Ford stated last week they have enough cash to last till the end of the year....then what?

Why????Toyota is moving production back to Japan.Are you Japanese???

Let the people who worked for GM/Chrysler buy their products. I'm going Ford.

If'n you own a toyota, better check ur frame:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/investigative/19294250/detail.html

If FORD started getting all the business, that would be a good message to send to Obama.

26-28 totally highway was the best I could do. I bought the matrix to replace a ford escort wagon 5spd with 150k. Kicked myself for that.

Unkick yerself and buy another Ford.

I jump in pretty quick on vehicle threads especially when people start praising toyota. The push to outproduce GM really dropped their quality and ford took their spot. I would never claim one company can do everything and never have a lemon. That toyota and a rental camry proved to me that american made toyotas have problems.
A coworker with 2 older toyotas went with a ford f150 after watching my struggle to keep one toyota on the road.

All this talk about buying something other than Chrysler and GM due to the money going to the Govt and UAW and such makes me think. People buy Jap products and such say they are buying American products and that the money goes to Americans and their jobs because they are built here. However, ultimatly some of the money goes over seas to the Japs- right. I guess the point that I am getting at- which I am not too good at putting this into written words is this. I guess I would rather see the money go to the US govmt to pay back the tax payers and UAW so Chrysler and GM can be solid again than pay my money to over seas companies that I will never see the money again. The trade deficit is just too big and IS costing US jobs.

Hemi

That GM/Chrysler will become solid again is a really big wish...

Because? Enlighten me o wise one. Such an insightful post- these your words and feelings? I guess it is pretty easy to be on the side of "no they can't" rather than stick your neck out and say "yes they can". I guess I can say I am glad people like you are not working for me or with me. There are several people that work for me that are pulling for the "yes we can". They are making sacrifices daily, putting in the extra work, and have a good attitude to make the best out of what they are dealt. I guess the best way to sum it up is this:

"Successful people are successful in the situations they find themselves in- they don't go looking for successful situations to put themselves in"

Go find a succeddful situation to be in- please stay off my team.

Hemi

Hemi:

For me, I don't disagree with the intended results of the current actions (a healthy, more nimble American car manufacturing industry), but I certainly do question the method by which this has been set up by the government. GM shareholders are going to be essentially wiped out. The 15.8 billion of of secured debt is going to be preserved. The $27 billion of unsecured bondholders will get 10% equity and no new debt. The $27 billion of US Government debt will get 50% equity and $19.6 billion of new debt. The UAW's $20.4 billion of debt will be converted into 39% equity and $10.2 billion of new debt. The same essentially will be proposed for Chrysler with the exception of shareholders (as they are owned by private equity firm). I can certainly understand how a deal such as GM's could anger many, while at the same time pleasing some.

I am hardly enlightened, and have listed my reasons over several posts in the past. I am a regular person, who has watched over the years, how GM has squandered its opportunities, and became a spoon feeder of retirees and union workers. You have voiced alot of annimosity in your post, and while I am just another voice on the internet, I would suggest, you reinvest your energy into something more productive. Afraid you will lose your GM job?
Find another one like many others who have had to adjust to the times. I've made 2 career changes in my life, as have many others. Working for GM was a teen to grave benefit dream of many, but in America a corporation should be expected to make a profit, not leave their shareholders in a lurch while sucking up to taxpayer money. GM needs to die.

Once again, I WILL NEVER BUY another GM/Chrysler product AGAIN.

The last time I bought a GM product was 1978. It was a Firebird that was plagued with mechanical and electrical problems that were difficult to get the dealer to stand behind. By 82 the body was rotting off the frame, thankfully I broke a pole in half with it coming off some black ice and it was totalled.

I've mainly run Ford's ever since.

Different strokes. I bought my last Ford in 1984. Actually, I'm glad I did buy a Ford once. Because I will never do that again! What a POS!

I have yet to see the Toyota/HydraBed combination up here.

my best car was a ford, a 1994 mercury grand maquis

Toyota is a girls truck. I had one and was embarrassed to drive it. It had trouble pulling my 4800lb camper and was suppose to be rated at 6700lb pulling power. If you have a Tundra, get the windows tinted because real truck owners are laughing at ya.

I got a DURAMAX now and it pulls my 12000lb toy hauler no problem. I will not give up on GM yet.