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I know they are just cheap junk (just ignore the Sako barrel, and exquisite machining). Testing my elevation dial this past weekend on my T3 6.5x55, Zeiss 3-9 Conquest. black dot is 1". Started out at 200 yards:![[Linked Image]](http://i45.tinypic.com/fxurtg.jpg) Moved on to 300yds:![[Linked Image]](http://i45.tinypic.com/k55po9.jpg) Moved onto 400, but 30mph gust were blowing me all over, still managed 2" at 400. Sorry, no pic.  Heading back out this weekend to see what this piece of junk will do at 500...Load is lapua case, Fed 210M primers, H4350, 120gr Ballistic Tip, 2900+fps. ![[Linked Image]](http://i47.tinypic.com/2u7wxm9.jpg)
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What a p.o.s.
Where'd you shoot?
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Up hardscrabble...need to find a new spot where I can hit 400+ though. Those political signs make great portable target backing too... 
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I've got two, a wood stock .308, and a stainless .270 lite, Two of the best gun investments I ever made!
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If only accuracy were the sole criteria for a fine rifle I'd own several.
It ain't.
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I'm perpetually on the verge of springing for one of these in .243. How low can you get the rings on one?
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I've never owned a rifle yet that would outshoot this one, had a smoother action, smoother feeding, better factory trigger, and was this light...
I am sure you can get low rings, Talley makes rings, and you can also use a weaver style base and get whatever weaver style ring you want. Mine has Burris bases and rings.
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I've never owned a rifle yet that would outshoot this one, had a smoother action, smoother feeding, better factory trigger, and was this light...
I have one which trumps the Tikka in all those respects. As well as balances better, feels better, looks better, is made better, is finished better, and appreciates in value. Oh yeah, it's CRF too.
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Have an older 695 in 280 that will run rings around anything else I own.
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I wish my Tikka wasn't this good, I have had several customs that simply couldn't hang with this rifle. i will be sad when I finally burn out the barrel.
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The pre-T3 Tikkas are fine rifles.
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I know they are just cheap junk (just ignore the Sako barrel, and equisite machining). Testing my elevation dial this past weekend on my T3 6.5x55, Zeiss 3-9 Conquest. black dot is 1". Started out at 200 yards:Moved on to 300yds:Moved onto 400, but 30mph gust were blowing me all over, still managed 2" at 400. Sorry, no pic. Heading back out this weekend to see what this piece of junk will do at 500...Load is lapua case, Fed 210M primers, H4350, 120gr Ballistic Tip, 2900+fps. What stock is that?
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Stock is Bell and Carlson Medalist.
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I am another Tikka lover. My T3 .243 is my favorite rifle.
What is not to like. A 7 lb rig that shoots like a 16 lb BR rig.
Easily the best bang for the buck rifle available today.
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I have a Tikka lite in 7 RM. I also have a Browning Xbolt that will out shoot it any day of the week, has a better trigger (not by much) and a better stock. The Tikka wins the bolt smoothness(not by much) and the price ($300 less) catergories.
The Tikka for what it is, is a hellofa good deal.
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Nothing wrong with that.
I have a couple T3s that are ok shooters, decent rifles for the price.
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They're not so inexpensive anymore either.
All the lefties are ~$700+.
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i payed 575 for my lefty 270win. wouldn't take 1500.00 for it now. waiting on a right handed one just like mine to be shipped now. i bought it for a buddy last week in the classifieds.
they are just terrible guns,best trigger,very accurate,lite weight,smooth as silk action. i've been wanting a 6.5x55 in a lefty for a while now.
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I've never owned a rifle yet that would outshoot this one, had a smoother action, smoother feeding, better factory trigger, and was this light... I'm hearing you brother. Been the custom way........Plus Sauer, Sako, Nosler, NULA, Winchester(64's & Classics), Blaser(R93 & R8) with numerous barrels........but nothing can touch my new 30-06 T3. The kicker here is. I now just run factory ammo, imagine what it could do with rolled...... LOL  ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/a306c112.jpg)
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I have a .243 and initial load data shows easy .5 inch groups with no load work up. Walked into a gander mountain the other day and found a never fired, no visible handling marks T3 hunter in .223 with a new Leupold Vx3 3.5-10x50 on it on the used rack for $600. And it came with an aluminum case. Done.
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Testing my elevation dial this past weekend on my T3 6.5x55, Zeiss 3-9 Conquest. black dot is 1".
Dogcatcher are you running the short turrets that come stock on the zeiss or some thing different?
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Well guess I got lucky about three years ago a dealer was selling off overstock LH T-3's in 270W paid $375 NIB Lefty son was very happy to one that fit him. Accurate bugger as well. MOA with just about anything. I had a Sako Av in 6.5X55 that would shoot as well. Won many a "hunter rifle" match at 300 yards with that one.
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Guys, I don't expect anyone to believe what I'm fixin to say but it's the truth..psspsspss I got my T3 Lite SS 270 Win in 2003. I have hunted it a lot except for 08-010 when I hunted a Win 70. After sighting in - I've not had to change or re-adjust it NONE. It AIN'T goin nowhere! ,,,,,,,,,knowwhatImean..vern??
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Wow, that pretty much sums up all my rifles.
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Buddy of mine owns a handful of highdollar long-range customs. He's always downtalking the cheap shelf rifles so I told him I'd go rifle for rifle .......my cheap $300 XS7 Marlin against his $3000 dollar custom. Heck, you'd of thought he'd have jumped all over that one. Sure woulda been nice....I could use another rifle.
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I have a Tikka t3 lite in .338wm. My buddies all like to make fun of it because they are either diehard m700 or m70 fans. Last year off the Denali Hwy, I clip a caribou in the heart @ 565 yards in a 15mph crosswind.
2 week ago I was out shooting with one of these guys. Went back to his house and I noticed he had a Tikka t3 in .300wm in his safe (he tried to shut it before I noticed). BUSTED! I put a Tikka sticker on his bumper. I still dont think he has noticed.
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I have a Tikka t3 lite in .338wm. My buddies all like to make fun of it because they are either diehard m700 or m70 fans. Last year off the Denali Hwy, I clip a caribou in the heart @ 565 yards in a 15mph crosswind.
2 week ago I was out shooting with one of these guys. Went back to his house and I noticed he had a Tikka t3 in .300wm in his safe (he tried to shut it before I noticed). BUSTED! I put a Tikka sticker on his bumper. I still dont think he has noticed. LMAO ..... great  I like it when I hear. "I dont like rifles with plastic parts". And most have synthetic rifles LOL 'It's polymer lads, embrace it & welcome to the dark side........
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More T3 porn ![[Linked Image]](http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/P1060478.jpg) That's the best wood that I've seen in a T3 hunter stock. Very Nice!
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Dogcatcher, I like the OD green stock with the stainless! I had to grin when you posted those target pics. I have 2 T3 6.5x55's and they are sweet shooters. The other day, a buddy let me try a few rounds of the 140 NBT's he loaded for his 6.5x55. I think that combo will work. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/gausi641/My%20Rifles/T365x55140NBT-1.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/gausi641/My%20Rifles/PA140NBT2_resize.jpg)
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"plastikka" motto............"but damn they shoot good"....If that was the only criteria to a making a fine rifle "plastikkas" would be fine rifles indeed, but as many rifles shoot very accurate it takes a little more than accuracy alone to qualify. nice groups by the way not only an accurate rifle but a good shooter to produce these groups .............Hb
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Stock is Bell and Carlson Medalist. Did it take any mods to get it to fit action? Looking at a B&C for my T 3 300wm
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"plastikka" motto............"but damn they shoot good"....If that was the only criteria to a making a fine rifle "plastikkas" would be fine rifles indeed, but as many rifles shoot very accurate it takes a little more than accuracy alone to qualify. nice groups by the way not only an accurate rifle but a good shooter to produce these groups .............Hb Right on and exactly what I said earlier. For me it takes more than accuracy to make a fine rifle. In addition to the attributes I mentioned before, first shot out of a cold bore precisely to POA every time is paramount. I simply don't care a bit if the third or fourth or fifth shot opens up my groups to over MOA.
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Buddy of mine owns a handful of highdollar long-range customs. He's always downtalking the cheap shelf rifles so I told him I'd go rifle for rifle .......my cheap $300 XS7 Marlin against his $3000 dollar custom. Heck, you'd of thought he'd have jumped all over that one. Sure woulda been nice....I could use another rifle.
Shod My T3 .243 has embarrassed more than one custom rifle at the range. I love the look on their faces when the high dollar guns get whipped.
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Dogcatcher are you running the short turrets that come stock on the zeiss or some thing different?
I left the original windage turret, and sent it back for a "target" elevation turret. Stock is Bell and Carlson Medalist. Did it take any mods to get it to fit action? Looking at a B&C for my T 3 300wm Actually, it dropped right in. Then I noticed the channel was not floated. I sanded out the channel a bit and noticed it still wasn't floated. I then realized the tang area of the aluminum block was sitting ass high. I grinded down the aluminum with a dremel, then bedded everything in Marine Tex. If you bed a Tikka stock with a built in lug, don't put any epoxy near the lug. it will spread above the lug, and lift the action off the lug, which isn't what you want. That is my only complaint with the stock. I wish there was just a slot, then you could drop in your factory lug and be done with it.
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Some good shooting fellas.
But, if your 'custom rifles' won't shoot/function with a T3, I'd suggest you're using the wrong smiths/components. I bought one to play with when they came out. It shot/functioned great, but then, so did/do most of my other rifles, customs and factory. The T3's gone now.
As a few others have mentioned, it takes more than just 1/2MOA to make a good hunting rifle. IMO.
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.
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My buddy has one. He shot a Yankee in Ohio from his front porch in Bude, Ms.
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I'l gladly be joining the ranks of tikka owners as soon as I can find a T3 Hunter in 7-08.
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Thank you for providing detailed info And some fine shooting. Some malign the Tikka on here but my freezer is always filled to the brim with meat every hunting season hunting with my Tikka's.
Dogcatcher are you running the short turrets that come stock on the zeiss or some thing different?
I left the original windage turret, and sent it back for a "target" elevation turret. Stock is Bell and Carlson Medalist. Did it take any mods to get it to fit action? Looking at a B&C for my T 3 300wm Actually, it dropped right in. Then I noticed the channel was not floated. I sanded out the channel a bit and noticed it still wasn't floated. I then realized the tang area of the aluminum block was sitting ass high. I grinded down the aluminum with a dremel, then bedded everything in Marine Tex. If you bed a Tikka stock with a built in lug, don't put any epoxy near the lug. it will spread above the lug, and lift the action off the lug, which isn't what you want. That is my only complaint with the stock. I wish there was just a slot, then you could drop in your factory lug and be done with it.
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I filled a freezer with a bow for years, but that's as primitive as I'll go. So no Tikka for me.
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I filled a freezer with a bow for years, but that's as primitive as I'll go. So no Tikka for me.  I still fill my freezer with a bow. I'm sure there are guys who fill their freezers with a Mossberg ATR too but I'm not getting one of those.
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Been a bowhunter for 31 years, but I still own a Tikka. Oh, and by the way, I shoot a recurve.
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i like fugly guns,savages and tikka's
i'll take accurate over ugly anyday.
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i like fugly guns,savages and tikka's
i'll take accurate over ugly anyday. Preach on. Rifle makers get one oppourtunity to sell my a$$ an inaccurate rifle. My T3 Lite is accurate, so I'll buy another Tikka.
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Right on and exactly what I said earlier.
For me it takes more than accuracy to make a fine rifle.
In addition to the attributes I mentioned before, first shot out of a cold bore precisely to POA every time is paramount.
I simply don't care a bit if the third or fourth or fifth shot opens up my groups to over MOA.
Well my T-3 Lite shoots 1st & last bullet generally in the same hole. In fact it outshot all my factory varmints including a Sako V!! Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better?? My only complaint on the Tikka is the difficulty feeding a single bullet down that narrow slot the emptys fly out of. 
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I'm less impressed with my T3 22-250 than I am with my 695 in (gasp) 270 Win. The 695 is the epitome of consistency. ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/alank/RIVERBEND001.jpg)
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Only those that don't have them or have not shot them malign them.
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What about those who do no longer have them?
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Then they are poor unfortunate souls aren't they?
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Only those that don't have them or have not shot them malign them. Ive had 5, but keep going back to my Sako's. Same accuracy (except my 595 would outshoot all the T3's), but better fit for me and I like the action length suited to the cartridge, not one size fits all. If they went to aluminum shroud and bottom metal, a lot of guys would pay the extra $$.
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Picked up a metal shroud for $25
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i say anyone that can't get a tikka to shoot good groups,just can't shoot period!!!!
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Picked up a metal shroud for $25 Ya, I put one on my 595. Never had any issues with the plastic just looks cheap. I would have paid $150 more for alloy. There are lots of rifles in that price range with metal, so its not that it cant be done, just cheaper to do plastic, = more profit. I'm not a fan of Rem's dm, but they can make a rifle with metal and keep the price the same.
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I am still not understanding what makes them "ugly" or cheap. They look like a bolt action rifle. The only difference is the port is not open on the top. I believe this actually is part of the accuracy equation.
The reason I call it a custom killer is because I have owned 5 custom barreled rifles, and they cost three times as much, and shot half as well. This tikka shoots anything you feed it. Load development consists of taking a book off the shelf and following a recipe. AND...it has a really long throat so I am not even close to the lands, gasp!
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Not questioning accuracy, just the reason for plastic bits when alloy isn't much more to do. Would you have not bought that rifle if it had metal instead?
I think they would have sold just as many rifles, plus extra ones for those would prefer alloy.
A wood/blued tikka would be much improved in looks. The plastic does not aid or hinder accuracy.
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Only those that don't have them or have not shot them malign them. If they went to aluminum shroud and bottom metal, a lot of guys would pay the extra $$. I agree with that
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Some good shooting fellas.
But, if your 'custom rifles' won't shoot/function with a T3, I'd suggest you're using the wrong smiths/components. I bought one to play with when they came out. It shot/functioned great, but then, so did/do most of my other rifles, customs and factory. The T3's gone now.
As a few others have mentioned, it takes more than just 1/2MOA to make a good hunting rifle. IMO. I wouldn't say that at all. if you are comparing rifles of similar weights. Tikkas will outshoot just about anything, my 243 ai custom IMO will outshoot a tikka but every trick I could come up with and the finest components money can buy has been what its taken as well as careful reloading technique with neck turned brass. I will say other customs I own will be outshot by a tikka. The other thing about tikka is they tend to not be fussy about what load you run in them. They just seem to normally shot everything well. when I help a friend set up his rifle and get ready for a hunt, if I have any input on rifle choice I always say get a tikka because I am pretty darn sure that an allen wrench will get the trigger where it needs to be and a random box of ammo off the shelf will have the gun shooting good enough after sighting in the scope.
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Gotta agree with the above posts,I recently acquired a 595 7-08 and its one damn fine shooting rifle.
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I actually like the plastic mags and trigger guard. They are light, and impervious to the elements. Same reason I like Glocks and plastic mags in the AR's.
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If they'd make a short action I'm in, otherwise I'll pass..
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3.
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I actually like the plastic mags and trigger guard. They are light, and impervious to the elements. I agree with this too. I don't mind the mags or trigger guard myself but do believe if the shroud and bottom metal were aluminum they would sell more. I think a lot of peoples first impression based on the plastic parts and (great) but low price leaves them with an opinion of cheap and not made as well. Those that own them and know anything about them know they are made very well and shoot very well. Even the injection molded stock is the best I have seen of that type. I put a replacement shroud on mine just because it made me happy.
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I have had alot of tikka's and most shot excellent, a couple of them were just ok. About the same track record with rem 700's.
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I'm still waiting for my Tikka bolt handle to fall off, and for the gun to go BOOM when I click off the safety...Oh wait, that is the M700! haha
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I have had alot of tikka's and most shot excellent, a couple of them were just ok. About the same track record with rem 700's. After having eight Tikka's 5 were great shooters and 3 were good, that is 3x better aveage than my other brand guns.
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I'm still waiting for my Tikka bolt handle to fall off, and for the gun to go BOOM when I click off the safety...Oh wait, that is the M700! haha Question: was that the barrel I heard go boom? .....somebody was going to say it...
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Question: was that the barrel I heard go boom?
.....somebody was going to say it...
I guess everybody forgot Remington had that problem too only with shotgun barrels. The difference was that Sako/Tikka did an immediate recall on all affected rifles as soon as they identified the problem and the bad batch of stainless steel barrels causing it, while Remington had to lose a class action suit before they recalled their defective barrels.
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That rifle looks like a keeper!
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. What's Kimber selling those left-handed M84's for these days? What calibers can I get one in? I want one of those rifles like Boxer has, only with the handle on the left...
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Dude can't even hit that big square on the piece of paper! I would sell that Tikka immediately and buy a Kimber. At least with a Kimber you would have a 50 50 chance of hitting it and your shots wouldn't be bunched on top of eachother like with a Tikka. Sheesh!
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But it is not CRF, how are you going to reload when you have to do flips down the side of the mountain to avoid being ate by a charging chipmunk? 
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I filled a freezer with a bow for years, but that's as primitive as I'll go. So no Tikka for me. I run 'em over with a four wheel drive -- horse drawn -- can't get much more primitive than that.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. What's Kimber selling those left-handed M84's for these days? What calibers can I get one in? I want one of those rifles like Boxer has, only with the handle on the left... You smart ass! You know you can't get a new M84 in left hand. Can hardly ever find a used one either. If one went up for sale you'd have to race me to get it too!
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. What's Kimber selling those left-handed M84's for these days? What calibers can I get one in? I want one of those rifles like Boxer has, only with the handle on the left... A very good friend bought a Kimber Montana this year and I was hugely disapointed in the quality, fit and finish as well as the accuracy. His son bought a model 70 ew at the same time and the difference was stark with the model 70 far better in every aspect. He took it on a bear hunt with me this spring and the stock didn't hold up very well. It scratch easily and chipped too. I would take a Tikka any day and with the price difference I could buy two Tikkas.
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southwind -
I have no reason to be prejudiced for/against the Kimbers. However I've read many more complaints about the Kimbers than the Tikkas.
Some report very poor accuracy and others like you report lack of quality.
I have a sample of ONE Tikka and it fits in with most of the reports here. The accuracy is much better than average, the trigger breaks like icicles and I have NOT touched it to tamper with it. It came that way.
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No doubt the Tikkas are nice rifles. They just don't do it for me. Awesome shooting to the OP.
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I bought a T3 lite stainless because I felt obliged to take an 06 to Africa with me. That is a long argument won by the Shootist. At any rate I had decided to hate the ugly duckling but It shot so well, handled so well and the trigger was handsdown the best factory trigger I ever squeezed on a rifle that it has become my go to rifle for my normal NA game. When my PH's rifle started throwing bullets all over, he asked to borrow my spare for the remaining 8 days. He insisted I use it the last day so I could say I hunted it in Africa.
I would have given it to him if it had been possible, but I am ever so glad that I could not. It is now the rifle I grab whe running out to shoot bear or wolves bothering the livestock. It always works with the first shot. Cold or heat do not affect function or POI.
Yes I like it in spite of the stainless and plastic. I am having a wood stock made for it just because.
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Dude can't even hit that big square on the piece of paper!
I would sell that Tikka immediately and buy a Kimber. At least with a Kimber you would have a 50 50 chance of hitting it and your shots wouldn't be bunched on top of eachother like with a Tikka.
The good thing about kimbers is your plywood lasts a long time, because the shots are dispersed everywhere.
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![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/2005Deer598yds308Tikka.jpg) Here is a pic of two Mulies killed at 598 yards with one round each from my .308 Tikka back a number of years ago. ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/089.jpg) This pic is from rezeroing out my turrets for a different elevation ( Hunting near my cabin vs where I normally shoot). I shot these groups prone, off my pack and bipod, from the deck of my cabin, using my Tikka .308's "hunting" load. ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/082-1.jpg) Yep, Them Tikkas Suck!
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southwind -
I have no reason to be prejudiced for/against the Kimbers. However I've read many more complaints about the Kimbers than the Tikkas.
Some report very poor accuracy and others like you report lack of quality.
I have a sample of ONE Tikka and it fits in with most of the reports here. The accuracy is much better than average, the trigger breaks like icicles and I have NOT touched it to tamper with it. It came that way. [quote=jwall]southwind - I have had 3 tikkas and two kimbers. I have one tikka (.308 win wickedly accurate) left and still have both kimbers. Accuracy of of my tikka 7mm rem mag wasn't much better than my old model 70 so it went down the road. It also showed pressure signs at lame velocities. Both my kimbers have shot better than an inch regularly with great velocity and no pressure signs. Both kimbers also have a better trigger than my tikka. I still might pick up a .223 t3 just for a fun gun. I think the tikka is a good gun for the money but my kimbers have been an even better better gun for not that much more money.
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Bigbuck- I'm not knocking Kimbers. Don't have one, not had one.
I'm sure you know there are people very happy with theirs, and there are people who report poor accuracy.
All I am saying is I've read more criticism about Kimbers than Tikkas.
No offense intended.
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Does anyone else find the forearm checkering to be off putting? I think it is the gaps between the checkering I might find odd feeling. Curious if I am alone on this.
Really want to like one.
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I agree, probably the main reason that I don't own a newer Tikka.
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Then they are poor unfortunate souls aren't they? Never came to that conclusion, my T3-after-life is pretty good I'd say Not a Tikka owner any more, but if I had to pick one it would probably be an M695. Am I now banned from this T3-fraternity? (best shooter in my collection currently is, believe it or not, my .375 CZ )
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I believe you. My 375 is a 2" @ 100 with the open express sights. I refuse to scope it because I would be tempted to use it as a target rifle.
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I believe you. My 375 is a 2" @ 100 with the open express sights. I refuse to scope it because I would be tempted to use it as a target rifle. With open sights? Damn great shootin!!!...............Hb
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I'm not predjudiced, I've got two Tikkas and two kimbers. Won't part with any of them.
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More than a little curious to see how that T3 recoil luggette is faring twenty years from now.
Seems there's a thriving business in Rem style recoil lugs for the T3 over on the Hide.
That luggette is just one of the engineering compromises which turned me off of the T3 design.
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I've given my family instructions to bury me in a hole standing up face into the prevailing wind. 20 years would be good. And my older Tikkas (M65) shoot just fine day in and day out.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. What's Kimber selling those left-handed M84's for these days? What calibers can I get one in? I want one of those rifles like Boxer has, only with the handle on the left... You smart ass! You know you can't get a new M84 in left hand. Can hardly ever find a used one either. If one went up for sale you'd have to race me to get it too! Yep!! You betcher ass I know. And therein lies the pickle. It does me no good to hear how superior the Kimber is if I can't get one. Which leaves the rest of the lefties being produced, good or bad. Sorry nsa, I had to mess with you a little bit over that, you lucky dog!!! Take care, bro.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. What's Kimber selling those left-handed M84's for these days? What calibers can I get one in? I want one of those rifles like Boxer has, only with the handle on the left... A very good friend bought a Kimber Montana this year and I was hugely disapointed in the quality, fit and finish as well as the accuracy. His son bought a model 70 ew at the same time and the difference was stark with the model 70 far better in every aspect. He took it on a bear hunt with me this spring and the stock didn't hold up very well. It scratch easily and chipped too. I would take a Tikka any day and with the price difference I could buy two Tikkas. And therein lies the other problem - the infamous 'Kimber lottery'. Some are jewels, and some seem to be dogs, for some reason. Dunno why, but there seems to be an inordinate amount of inconsistency in Kimber production. And the Winchester 70's are little more available to lefties than Kimber's are. Rarely you'll see one advertised, but for the most part they are myth and legend.
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Then they are poor unfortunate souls aren't they? Never came to that conclusion, my T3-after-life is pretty good I'd say Not a Tikka owner any more, but if I had to pick one it would probably be an M695. Am I now banned from this T3-fraternity? (best shooter in my collection currently is, believe it or not, my .375 CZ ) No, you are not banned from the fraternity but you will have to be alumni status and sit quietly on the front row unless called upon. hehehe..... I don't doubt you on your cz, they are another under-appreciated firearm.
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More than a little curious to see how that T3 recoil luggette is faring twenty years from now.
Seems there's a thriving business in Rem style recoil lugs for the T3 over on the Hide.
That luggette is just one of the engineering compromises which turned me off of the T3 design. Actually it is an engineering feat because of the presise fit and location it requires no bedding. BUT I too wonder about the life cycle. On the plus side there is no problem with adding a standard lug down the line if you rebarrel or have a problem with the "luggette" (I like that name by the way)
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Thanks Trav, it is my 600yd coyote gun, haha!
Regarding the lug, I agree it is an odd design, but if it ever goes bad I will simply get another lug...
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We had a post here some time ago about a worn luggette on a T3 and not only was the luggette worn but it also battered the slot in the receiver.
A Rem style recoil lug would eliminate this concern.
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i can't see how something would wear if the fit was tight. There would have to be play to begin with. My gun has seen hundreds of rounds and nothing is wearing.
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Seems the luggette problem is rather common. There is a thread about it on the Hide.
The design is crappy in the extreme with the least recoil lug surface area of any HP rifle I'm aware of.
How much more expensive would a Rem style recoil lug have been?
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Funny you have such a problem with the lug. Sako even uses it in the TRG42, and they are 300Wins, and 338 Lapuas. Guess their engineers need to spend more time reading the 'campfire.  http://www.sako.fi/sakotrgmodels.php?trg42
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I have had alot of tikka's and most shot excellent, a couple of them were just ok. About the same track record with rem 700's. here is how the 30-06 you sold me shoots ![[Linked Image]](http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/cumminscowboy1974/sellstuff026.jpg) 3 different bullets with 4 different powders BTW, agg of all groups still in the .5's I have owned 2 other tikkas and the other 2 have shot the first factory loads I have tried in them around .5 inch. never felt the need to try other stuff. its way better than remington 700's I have played with in fact is better than 700's with krieger barrels and glass bedded professionally. some of the smallest groups I have shot with ANY rifle have been with tikkas, the 30-06 above has shot 1/4" ragged holes so has the 243 I later ended up selling
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Funny you have such a problem with the lug. Sako even uses it in the TRG42, and they are 300Wins, and 338 Lapuas. Guess their engineers need to spend more time reading the 'campfire. http://www.sako.fi/sakotrgmodels.php?trg42 Yep, with probably 5 or 6 times more surface area.
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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle!
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Hell, I can't shoot in the .2's no matter the rifle I'm using. In field positions forget about it. I'm continually impressed with the quality of the SHOOTERS here! Envious as well you bastiges!
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We had a post here some time ago about a worn luggette on a T3 and not only was the luggette worn but it also battered the slot in the receiver. Seems to me it'd be pretty unlikely for an aluminum lugette to batter a steel receiver. I don't own a T-3 but my old 595 and 695 Tikka's are the smoothest working, most accurate factory rifles I've ever owned and would be the last I'd ever part with.
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The luggettes are steel and there was a thread here some time back which showed both the luggette and the receiver slot battered.
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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle! My sentiment exactly. Hell, I had a TC Encore barrel in 7mm-08 that shot better than I could ask of any rifle, no matter who made it or the cost. But, the rifle was clunky, and could not get my blood going no matter how functional it was. My Kimbers, I have two, each proved to be difficult, but when you find their sweet spot, it don't get much sweeter. I love shooting and carrying them.
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The luggettes are steel and there was a thread here some time back which showed both the luggette and the receiver slot battered. I thought I remembered someone on here saying the lugette was aluminum.
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Pretty sure mine was aluminum.
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Hell, I can't shoot in the .2's no matter the rifle I'm using. Envious as well you bastiges! Perhaps you should try even a standard barrel weight Tikka...
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck 
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Congrats on that muley.I would still be smiling.
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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle! My sentiment exactly. Hell, I had a TC Encore barrel in 7mm-08 that shot better than I could ask of any rifle, no matter who made it or the cost. But, the rifle was clunky, and could not get my blood going no matter how functional it was. My Kimbers, I have two, each proved to be difficult, but when you find their sweet spot, it don't get much sweeter. I love shooting and carrying them. Id take a 1.5 MOA Rifle with steel and figreglass than 2 aluminum/plastic rifles that shoot 1/2 MOA. Eventually somewhere down the road I could make the 1.5 MOA Shoot better, if I wanted to, even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load, unless of course you like drooling over itty bitty groups. But the plastic/aluminum tack driver would still be plastic/aluminum. And tikkas arent a "bargain" in fact up here theyre more expensive than their steel counterparts.
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Accuracy is far from the only thing in a custom rifle. Without accuracy it doesn't much matter but looks also count for something, and sorry but Tikka doesn't have much in the way of looks. Life's to short to shoot an ugly rifle! My sentiment exactly. Hell, I had a TC Encore barrel in 7mm-08 that shot better than I could ask of any rifle, no matter who made it or the cost. But, the rifle was clunky, and could not get my blood going no matter how functional it was. My Kimbers, I have two, each proved to be difficult, but when you find their sweet spot, it don't get much sweeter. I love shooting and carrying them. Id take a 1.5 MOA Rifle with steel and figreglass than 2 aluminum/plastic rifles that shoot 1/2 MOA. Eventually somewhere down the road I could make the 1.5 MOA Shoot better, if I wanted to, even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load, unless of course you like drooling over itty bitty groups. But the plastic/aluminum tack driver would still be plastic/aluminum. And tikkas arent a "bargain" in fact up here theyre more expensive than their steel counterparts. Steel and fiberglass? Heck I don't consider any rifle to be custom unless it has a real wood stock on it!
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[even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
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Not directed directly at you dc223 .... BUT
Blah Blah Blah.....
0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault. Match my rifle to my locatiion and my abilities ... all is goodly and if I don't screw up AND if I hunt hard AND with a little wink from the Good Lord above, I harvest game.
Its not rocket science guys ... no need to bash other folks choice in arms.
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck helluva buck!!!
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OMG JG! How'd you get em through the door?! (Just guessing that you had him mounted)
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I don't get any rifle to sit in the corner and look at, and marvel how good it looks, including a .5MOA tikka 695 7mag I've had for 13 years now. It's got plastic, and it's extremely tough, and exceedingly, boringly accurate as anything I've ever shot. I trusted it enough to take it deep into Sonora for this once in a lifetime, 213" gross typical muley buck
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I do have a fair amount of mule deer experience, but more than anything else I'm very lucky. I've simply been in the right place at the right time on several 190+ class bucks. I'm sorry to those who see I keep posting pics of that buck. It was taken in Dec of 2006 and I still can't wipe the smile off my face. You see, I'm addicted to mule deer hunting, and have been since I was 11 (40 yrs ago). I'd dreamed of going to Sonora for 20 years before I got to go. Right place, right time is all I can attribute it to. BTW, he's over 35" wide! Thanks for the kind words. I know I suck BTW!
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Hell, I can't shoot in the .2's no matter the rifle I'm using. Envious as well you bastiges! Perhaps you should try even a standard barrel weight Tikka... I have.
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you.
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I'm perpetually on the verge of springing for one of these in .243. How low can you get the rings on one? Pretty low if you know a trick or two... ![[Linked Image]](http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/16bore/TalleyLWLow3.jpg) M8 6x42 ![[Linked Image]](http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/16bore/TalleyLWLow.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/16bore/starboard.jpg) Mines a 30-06 (hold your applause) and shoots 155 Scenars nicely. Seems to be built as well as an off the rack ADL, which I prefer since DBM isn't really my cup of tea. Loading singles is pretty much a none issue. Stock is blah...but so is Remmies. Would I buy another? Well, I didn't buy this one....but for $650 (I think that's about right) you can put an ADL in a Ti take off. I'll give credit to the trigger, it's nice. Ergos? Ain't no one size fits all anything last I checked. Nice balance....
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Standard PlasTikka varmint stock, Duracoat finish. The varmint stock fits very well.
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0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault.
Who says a gun is for hunting? Hunting season here is one week a year, what about the other 51 weeks of shooting? 2MOA? That is a 10" group at 500 with no wind, and off a bench. Now aim that piece of crap over a pack, throw in some wind, and that 2MOA gun is only good for holding up tomatoes.
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you. So 1.5" at 100 equates, automatically, to 13.5" at 300. How's that?
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I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road.
Agreed : a 1.5moa is AT LEAST 4.5moa at 300 yds under bench conditions. Hunting is not bench shooting so the odds are increased against you. So 1.5" at 100 equates, automatically, to 13.5" at 300. How's that?  I think someone is confused here!
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Maybe jwall was thinking of a Ruger #1? Dohhhhh!
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I've made the exact same mistake so I'm a bit sympathetic.
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0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault.
Who says a gun is for hunting? Hunting season here is one week a year, what about the other 51 weeks of shooting? 2MOA? That is a 10" group at 500 with no wind, and off a bench. Now aim that piece of crap over a pack, throw in some wind, and that 2MOA gun is only good for holding up tomatoes. In your opinion .... but then again, I don't do a whole lotta shooting at 500 yards with a 30-30. Good Luck with that
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Yep, was referring to 4.5" at 300. When I refer to 1 moa at 100yds - I mean 1" outside-outside. That's my personal description. Always measured 0-0.
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0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 MOA rifles ... hunt with all of them, kill schitt with all of them. Iffin' I miss its my fault not my 2MOA-rile's fault.
Who says a gun is for hunting? Hunting season here is one week a year, what about the other 51 weeks of shooting? 2MOA? That is a 10" group at 500 with no wind, and off a bench. Now aim that piece of crap over a pack, throw in some wind, and that 2MOA gun is only good for holding up tomatoes. In your opinion .... but then again, I don't do a whole lotta shooting at 500 yards with a 30-30. Good Luck with that and a lot of us have deer seasons that last for months, and then there are hogs, and exotics, and calling coyotes, and PD's...
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[even while shooting at moderate distances Ive found little difference in practical gong-ringability between a 1/2 and 1.5 MOA load I would send a 1.5moa gun down the road. Thats unfortunate.
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Yep, was referring to 4.5" at 300. When I refer to 1 moa at 100yds - I mean 1" outside-outside. That's my personal description. Always measured 0-0. Damn, I always measured My groups from center to center, your 1" groups are My .75" groups, these are some extremely good groups!.............Hb
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Didn't read through the whole thing, but I have a Tikka that shoots bugholes and I like it. But I don't get all queered up about what another guy wants to hunt with either.
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A Tikka shooting bugholes is par for the course...
Just got done loading 50 more rounds. Hope to wring this out to 500 this weekend.
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More than a little curious to see how that T3 recoil luggette is faring twenty years from now.
Seems there's a thriving business in Rem style recoil lugs for the T3 over on the Hide.
That luggette is just one of the engineering compromises which turned me off of the T3 design. I do know of a guy that has one in 7 mag that shot out the barrel after 1900 rounds, it now has a new barrel and the recoil lug is still solid even in that plastic stock! I have read through this hole thread and you have knocked the T3 down many times, so if you don't like it why have you followed this thread? Is it a love/hate thing for this rifle?
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Just tempering all the T3 hyperbole.
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Just tempering all the T3 hyperbole. Ok, do you own a T3?
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It is the new and improved 788...lol.
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Just tempering all the T3 hyperbole. Ok, do you own a T3? Not anymore.
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He owned a .270 wsm with a slow barrel and has since been "tempering T3 hyperbole" with his sample of one. It's one thing to have an opinion about a rifle. It's another to bear the torch like you've got money riding on it.
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At least eight people have expressed a dislike for the T3 in this thread. Various reasons.
Several of those expressing fondness for Tikkas are shooting the pre-T3 models which are much better designed and built than the T3.
Plenty of T3 hyperbole to be tempered too.
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And my criticisms of the T3 in this thread have nothing to do with how well or not they shoot but rather in their numerous design and construction compromises and their feel.
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But man...they shoot!!
Like thats all their is to a good gun....
If I recall correctly Ive shot Plastikkas in .223, 22-250, 270, 270 wizz, 300, 300 wizz, 7RM, and Turdy O' Six. And none of them shot any better or worse than any other rifles Ive sat behind.
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But man...they shoot!!
Like thats all their is to a good gun....
If I recall correctly Ive shot Plastikkas in .223, 22-250, 270, 270 wizz, 300, 300 wizz, 7RM, and Turdy O' Six. And none of them shot any better or worse than any other rifles Ive sat behind. Imagine that!
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I know they are just cheap junk (just ignore the Sako barrel, and exquisite machining). Testing my elevation dial this past weekend on my T3 6.5x55, Zeiss 3-9 Conquest. black dot is 1". Started out at 200 yards:Moved on to 300yds:Moved onto 400, but 30mph gust were blowing me all over, still managed 2" at 400. Sorry, no pic. Heading back out this weekend to see what this piece of junk will do at 500...Load is lapua case, Fed 210M primers, H4350, 120gr Ballistic Tip, 2900+fps. a chap has gotta spend a few thousand bucks--and get up on the right side of the bed, to even hope to best that level of performance...
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Lets face it, guy's love em mainly because they are cheap, they do seem to shoot good and they think that makes "PlasTikkas" some kind of special, maybe they are amazed that something that cheap looking is capable of shooting decent, I've got a news flash most modern bolt action rifles made today do shoot very accuratly, the tolerances of modern rifles are very tight it's really no big deal if your rifle is accurate these days, any number of rifle makes are as good as the other, Remington, Savage, Winchester, Browning and many others build very accurate rifles. PlasTikka guy's need to get over it, many other rifles are just as accurate, any given rifle may outshoot the next most just don't reek of cheapness like PlasTikkas do.....................Hb
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Lets face it, guy's love em mainly because they are cheap, they do seem to shoot good and they think that makes "PlasTikkas" some kind of special, maybe they are amazed that something that cheap looking is capable of shooting decent, I've got a news flash most modern bolt action rifles made today do shoot very accuratly, the tolerances of modern rifles are very tight it's really no big deal if your rifle is accurate these days, any number of rifle makes are as good as the other, Remington, Savage, Winchester, Browning and many others build very accurate rifles. PlasTikka guy's need to get over it, many other rifles are just as accurate, any given rifle may outshoot the next most just don't reek of cheapness like PlasTikkas do.....................Hb
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i'm not a "fan" of them--that is to say, that i don't use them--and don't own any of them--but i know a couple of guys that do, and they have great success with their rigs.
but the beauty of understanding any craft or discipline is this: a guy has got to take what works for himself, and file the rest away--maybe for another day...
all learning is like a funnel:
however, contrary to popular thought, one begins with the the narrow end.
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Is this stock OEM or aftermarket ?????!!!!!
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Yeah! You guys that like Tikkas need to get over it! That way the guys that don't like Tikkas won't have to!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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I'll get over it when I stop hearing about how the T3 is a "custom rifle killer" and the best thing since sliced bread.
They just ain't.
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You keep referring to Tikkas as though I don't like them. I like the older Tikkas fine just not the compendium of compromise that is the T3.
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Tikkas don't "reek" of cheapness any more than some of the other stuff that's been offered by Winchester, Remington, Savage..etc, etc. The biggest hang up with most is the "bottom plastic", mags and the shroud. Maybe its "cheap", but when Glocks came out guys thought the same. I'd say Mr. Glock proved his case. Maybe one day, Mr. Tikka will....
When it's all said and done, who really gives a flying [bleep]?
Seriously, jezzuz [bleep] it's just another [bleep] rifle. OP pulled off some nice groups with it, period. Smack him on the azz and say "nice job".
Chevy, Dodge, Ford, Toyota.....who [bleep] cares?
Could never understand why fellas spend more time comparing their dicks than chasing puzzy.....
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Lets face it, guy's love em mainly because they are cheap, they do seem to shoot good and they think that makes "PlasTikkas" some kind of special, maybe they are amazed that something that cheap looking is capable of shooting decent, I've got a news flash most modern bolt action rifles made today do shoot very accuratly, the tolerances of modern rifles are very tight it's really no big deal if your rifle is accurate these days, any number of rifle makes are as good as the other, Remington, Savage, Winchester, Browning and many others build very accurate rifles. PlasTikka guy's need to get over it, many other rifles are just as accurate, any given rifle may outshoot the next most just don't reek of cheapness like PlasTikkas do.....................Hb That may be your opinion & everybodys welcome to one no matter..... I've had quite a number of "other" rifles & have never seen any of them shoot near as good as the average T! As for the plastic, my T get banged around on a snowmobile & atv chasing wolves & still looks good, hard to spout the advantages of a wonderful looking wood stock thats beat all the crap...unless you don't actually use it! Looks to me like many on this thread really like the T for what it is, a supreemly accurate, tough, dependable rifle a guy can use, to bad they weren't "cheap" because up here they're not.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. Perhaps you missed the part where I said reasonably priced. Or do new Kimbers generally run $7-800 bucks down there 
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Can't get a new Kimber in left hand.
I paid $1000 and have ten times the rifle with an appropriate sized action, all steel BA and BM, sweet polish blue, ultra lightweight synthetic stock, 6 pound 1.7 ounce weight all up scoped, and my Kimber is going up in value.
So yes, I'd say that was reasonably priced and an even better value.
You asked, I answered.
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Can't get a new Kimber in left hand.
I paid $1000 and have ten times the rifle with an appropriate sized action, all steel BA and BM, sweet polish blue, ultra lightweight synthetic stock, 6 pound 1.7 ounce weight all up scoped, and my Kumber is going up in value.
So yes, I'd say that was reasonably priced and an even better value.
You asked, I answered. Really? that T3 derangement syndrome will eat you alive and it sounds like you are half ate. The Kimber montana a buddy of mine just bought is a complete pos and I don't have any problem with you being in love with that but hang up the T3 obsession.
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Tell me one thing I said about the T3 that is not true?
Are they a one size fits all action? Check.
Do they have an incredibly small recoil lug area? Check.
Does plastic abound in the design? Check.
Are they cheaply finished? Check.
Do they have a multi piece bolt assembly with the bolt handle held on by the FP spring? Check.
Do they have ridiculously high priced spare parts? Check.
Are they no longer inexpensive? Check.
Where am I wrong?
I think you guys who tout the T3 as the best rifle value out there are the ones with the derangement.
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By nearly all accounts they're accurate and reliable but the same can be said for the Marlin X rifles for half the price.
And the X rifles have a true short action too.
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They don't give up anything in finish to a Kimber montana but you are the one with 28 post about a rifle you don't own. Those that own them, love them so why would you care?
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I don't own one anymore because I found the compromises unbearable on the one I did own.
Just trying to help some folks out who may get the impression from some hyperbolic T3 owners that the T3 is the finest bargain out there.
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Apparently this is 30 posts now but I'm sure you'll keep track for me.
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Yeah! You guys that like Tikkas need to get over it! That way the guys that don't like Tikkas won't have to! Good one! Durham,eh? Use to get rice bran from there back in the 50's and early 60's for my dads feed mill..
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Apparently this is 30 posts now but I'm sure you'll keep track for me. I get your disdain of the Tikka T3, but I sincerely doubt you will convince any present owner that your point of view override their satisfaction. I own many and varied rifles in steel and wood. I also own a Tikka T3 Lite fully plasticised. I do not love it for its beauty, but for its performance and trigger. Randy
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Think you could give me a recap on whats wrong with tikkas.
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T3s have two things going for them, Sako barrels and fck all.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. Perhaps you missed the part where I said reasonably priced. Or do new Kimbers generally run $7-800 bucks down there Perhaps I missed the part were a T3 is even remotely comparable to a Montana. Wasnt aware a T3 had a true synthetic stock, 100% steel parts, and accomodates real mounts.
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Curious just what reasonably priced, stock rifle you have that is so much better??
Left handed Kimber of Oregon M84. Better in just about every respect. And yes, I've owned a T3. Perhaps you missed the part where I said reasonably priced. Or do new Kimbers generally run $7-800 bucks down there Perhaps I missed the part were a T3 is even remotely comparable to a Montana. Wasnt aware a T3 had a true synthetic stock, 100% steel parts, and accomodates real mounts. How much did your little Montana .223 cost ya archie?
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Can't get a new Kimber in left hand.
I paid $1000 and have ten times the rifle with an appropriate sized action, all steel BA and BM, sweet polish blue, ultra lightweight synthetic stock, 6 pound 1.7 ounce weight all up scoped, and my Kumber is going up in value.
So yes, I'd say that was reasonably priced and an even better value.
You asked, I answered. Really? that T3 derangement syndrome will eat you alive and it sounds like you are half ate. The Kimber montana a buddy of mine just bought is a complete pos and I don't have any problem with you being in love with that but hang up the T3 obsession. Do tell of the POS Montana, so I can find a reason not to buy one.
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Buy what you want but as nsagam wrote of the poor finish I observed a recent montana that was not very whippy in that catagory. This was responding to his ten times better comment.
This same montana could barely produce 1.5 minutes despite numerous attempts along with a stock that chipped and scratched badly on it's first trip out. Anyway, if a guy likes the Kimber montana then buy away. This Montana is a pos and maybe there are many others that are not.
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How much did your little Montana .223 cost ya archie? Montana 223 NIB in Canada- 1250 plus tax Tikka T3 SS NIB- 899 plus tax McMillan EDGE- 550 Canadian Aluminum Shroud- 50$ Total to make a Tikka even **close** to a Montana 1500$ plus tax, and it STILL has a plastic mag, a long action, and junk bottom metal... AND BS dovetail mounting system. Carry on and tell me of how good a "bargain" these T3s are.
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Buy what you want but as nsagam wrote of the poor finish I observed a recent montana that was not very whippy in that catagory. This was responding to his ten times better comment.
This same montana could barely produce 1.5 minutes despite numerous attempts along with a stock that chipped and scratched badly on it's first trip out. Anyway, if a guy likes the Kimber montana then buy away. This Montana is a pos and maybe there are many others that are not. Please put me in contact with him. I'll trade him a blued T3, straight up. Seriously.
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At least Tikka owners aren't embarrased to post target pics. I thought about buying a Kimber and taking some poser photos of it in the back yard, but I went shooting instead. Here is a group at 400 yards. Little embarrased to admit it is only 2", but what can you do with the wind a mirage? ![[Linked Image]](http://i50.tinypic.com/11runmt.jpg)
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Just back from a few weeks in Africa. Appears I have to sell my Mauser's, new and old M70's, M77's and M700's as they cannot kill chit. Always learning I am. 
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I've played around with one for a couple of years in 270 WSM. I did not care for it at all. I'd take one over a Savage though.
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At least Tikka owners aren't embarrased to post target pics. I thought about buying a Kimber and taking some poser photos of it in the back yard, but I went shooting instead. Here is a group at 400 yards. Little embarrased to admit it is only 2", but what can you do with the wind a mirage? ![[Linked Image]](http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae310/archie_james_c/kimbersdontshoot.jpg) I tend to spend more time shooting and less time shuttering, lately. Although for the fact that those groups were shot off a pack, laying down I thought they were OK. I'd show you pics of 450 yard groups but I've just never cared enough to walk up and snap a pic of them when I could be zinging 30 more rounds down range in that time. Next time I'm out I'll take some pics just for you.
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I have a T3 .223 that really shoots. It is the only stainless and plastic rifle I own. The rest are walnut and blued steel. I love them all if they shoot; if they don't they are sold or traded.
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I love them all if they shoot; if they don't they are sold or traded. Thats the funny part about this whole argument. Of all the rifles I've owned/shot I've never NOT been able to make them shoot sub-moa, off a backpack at 100 yards.
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I'm a huge Kimber Montana fan, but they're not without their faults. I have a .308 that's headed back to the factory because it won't feed from the left side. I had identical issues with a .7mm-08, plus you'd have been lucky to hit a pie-plate with it at 100 yards. Kimber's "stainless steel" also rusts like crazy, but on the bright side, their customer service department has been good to work with.
I just picked up my first Tikka T3, a SS .223 Lite, and while the stock is nowhere near as nice as Kimber's, it's not bad for the $475.00 I paid for it. The magazine and scope mount doesn't scare me either. Been running Glocks and CZ 527's for years without a hitch. The one thing I wish it did have is a true short action. The trigger is as good as anything out there, plus it just flat out shoots.
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How much did your little Montana .223 cost ya archie? Montana 223 NIB in Canada- 1250 plus tax Tikka T3 SS NIB- 899 plus tax McMillan EDGE- 550 Canadian Aluminum Shroud- 50$ Total to make a Tikka even **close** to a Montana 1500$ plus tax, and it STILL has a plastic mag, a long action, and junk bottom metal... AND BS dovetail mounting system. Carry on and tell me of how good a "bargain" these T3s are. Actually I don't own a Tikka nor do I have the desire to own one because I don't care for the long action and the DM.. As far as the Montana selling for $1250.00 NIB plus tax maybe you could share with us the dealer that sells them for that price.. I do hope that you didn't paint yourself into a corner on this Montana pricing ($1250.00 NIB) as I am looking for another one myself.. The best I can come up with is $1350.00 plus tax with most dealers selling them for $1450.00 to $1550.00 plus tax..
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I'm a huge Kimber Montana fan, but they're not without their faults. I have a .308 that's headed back to the factory because it won't feed from the left side. I had identical issues with a .7mm-08, plus you'd have been lucky to hit a pie-plate with it at 100 yards. Kimber's "stainless steel" also rusts like crazy, but on the bright side, their customer service department has been good to work with.
I just picked up my first Tikka T3, a SS .223 Lite, and while the stock is nowhere near as nice as Kimber's, it's not bad for the $475.00 I paid for it. The magazine and scope mount doesn't scare me either. Been running Glocks and CZ 527's for years without a hitch. The one thing I wish it did have is a true short action. The trigger is as good as anything out there, plus it just flat out shoots. Yeah, Kimber's stainless steel is far from top tier. My 270 WSM Montana has some rust speckles on it but so did the Tikka 270 WSM that I had in my safe for a while. My Winnie's don't do that.
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I love them all if they shoot; if they don't they are sold or traded. Thats the funny part about this whole argument. Of all the rifles I've owned/shot I've never NOT been able to make them shoot sub-moa, off a backpack at 100 yards. So you've never owned a +MOA rifle? Wow! Quigley's got nothing on you. To all of the Tikka/plastic bashers out there, post up some pics of the broken parts that you've personally seen go bad (not intended for you nsaqam.....you have some perfectly valid reasons for your dislike and I respect that).
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I love them all if they shoot; if they don't they are sold or traded. Thats the funny part about this whole argument. Of all the rifles I've owned/shot I've never NOT been able to make them shoot sub-moa, off a backpack at 100 yards. So you've never owned a +MOA rifle? Wow! Quigley's got nothing on you. To all of the Tikka/plastic bashers out there, post up some pics of the broken parts that you've personally seen go bad (not intended for you nsaqam.....you have some perfectly valid reasons for your dislike and I respect that). I hope you have a lot of time on your hands to wait for that response I have had 2 of them only problem I had with one was a cracked bolt shroud. They both shot like a custom rifle is supposed to shoot.
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So you've never owned a +MOA rifle? Wow! Quigley's got nothing on you.
To all of the Tikka/plastic bashers out there, post up some pics of the broken parts that you've personally seen go bad (not intended for you nsaqam.....you have some perfectly valid reasons for your dislike and I respect that).
Now you did it JG! How's a guy supposed to continue on his rabid anti-T3 crusade with a nice response like that???
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Kimber 84M isn't half the rifle a Tikka T3 Lite is. I've owned both.
nsaqam and archie, you both are a couple of rude, inconsideate jerks for schitting on dogcatchers thread. He never asked you your opinion of Tikkas, or mentioned anything about the definition of a "fine" rifle. He just gave a report how his rifle shoots, and showed a target.
nsaqam, you've been crying and whining like a little girl for years about Tikka's. Why don't you grow up, act your age, and just quit bitching about them. We all know how you feel. Noone cares any more. Notice how none of us that have owned p.o.s. Kimbers have schit on your Kimber thread? Because we are polite enough to stay away. You should try it too.
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I had a Ruger #1 that was a turd. I am no fan of them because they are expensive, and I have read a lot of reports of ill shooting #1's. That being said, I don't devote my life to chasing down every #1 thread on the web so i can piss on it.
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Kimber 84M isn't half the rifle a Tikka T3 Lite is. I've owned both.
nsaqam and archie, you both are a couple of rude, inconsideate jerks for schitting on dogcatchers thread. He never asked you your opinion of Tikkas, or mentioned anything about the definition of a "fine" rifle. He just gave a report how his rifle shoots, and showed a target.
nsaqam, you've been crying and whining like a little girl for years about Tikka's. Why don't you grow up, act your age, and just quit bitching about them. We all know how you feel. Noone cares any more. Notice how none of us that have owned p.o.s. Kimbers have schit on your Kimber thread? Because we are polite enough to stay away. You should try it too. WAAAAA! Probably because I never have made ridiculous statements like my Kimber of Oregon M84 makes custom rifles obsolete or redundant. Only you T3 people make stupid ass statements like that. I've never claimed my Kimber of Oregon M84 was the be all and end all of rifle accuracy. Only you T3 people make stupid ass statements like that. I've never claimed that my Kimber of Oregon M84 was the best value in sporting rifles. Only you T3 people make stupid ass statements like that. I've never started a thread where I slandered other rifles claiming my Kimber of Oregon M84 is better. Only you T3 people do stupid ass stuff like that. Feel free to comment all you want on any of my Kimber of Oregon M84 threads but be sure that you speak from experience with the Kimber of Oregon M84's because I speak from experience with the crappy POS T3. You certainly won't hurt my feelings which is a lot more than I can say for you T3 people. Talk about getting your panties in a wad! Not directed at you JG, and I like you Drew.
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