Been out fishing on the ocean for the past 5 days.. Came in last night and my hunch was confirmed.

Cruz is a loser of the highest order. Canadian, career politician, and will not get my vote given his tactics.

He's worse than a televangelist, which I ranked him as before.

Well he does come across as a televangelist...

Never trust anyone with a floppy neck.

Trump... Pure Sleaze

The Cruzettes ain't gonna like this blasphemy.

I can send cheese...

BS Trump inventions aside, do you plan to vote for Hillary or let her get elected by not voting?

Time for a big dose of reality.

Don't worry, a good ass kicking is on it's way for ol' Cruz. He went down more than a few notches for me, and I'm sure most Americans. What a friggin loser.

I will not vote for Cruz.

So Hitlery and sanders are saints then.

I'll vote for a [bleep] eating dog if he's running against Hillary.

I've never heard Cruz speak when he wasn't giving either a sermon or a stump speech.

I actually don't think the man is capable of conversing in a natural manner.

Don't go full retard on me..

To Viking

And that is EXACTLY what he is counting on. And, exactly what his supporters is counting on. It's BS.

Well, if that bleep eating dog gets close enough to Hillary...

Calvin,

Cruz did something that nobody ever thought possible in Iowa. He opposed ethanol subsidies. And he won there. I respect the guts it took to take that position.

I personally like the man, given the competition grant you, and plan to vote for him.

Politicians and politics is a dirty business. None of us like it, but it is the way it is.

But to which his own. I cannot criticize your opinion because I respect it. You are an American and as such, you have that right. Just be prepared to find enough dirty tricks to go around for everybody. It is only going to get worse, unfortunately.

RAS

Unless the [bleep]-eating dog is Jeb...

That's all he is. Nothing more. Career politician who is willing to lie, cheat, and steal his way to power.

Cruz is the epitome of a career politician.


Don't worry though, he knows exactly what to say to get the "conservatives" to blindly follow him.

Myself and I am sure a lot others on here has said at one time or another "He might as will drop out", speaking of various candidates. Or maybe, It looks like He is out of it. I see little harm unless it happened to your man. miles

Three SCOTUS nominees, deficit, welfare state, 2A, and a host of other issues are not BS. They matter.

The choice will be whomever the Rs run against Hitlery or Sanders.

This is why liberals win. They have the ability to band together realizing (in their mind) that any liberal is better than any conservative. Conservatives only elect Mr. Perfect. No one else need apply.

Therefore, America is no longer a Christian nation under Obama, and we have a socialist on the ballot and getting 50% of the democrats vote.

Don't worry about having to choose between a democrat or Cruz because he isn't going to be the nominee.

And there's the difference between the hardcore Trump supporters and the hardcore Cruz supporters. You're OK with not voting for anyone but Trump. We're not. Trump certainly ain't my choice for the best candidate, but I'll sure vote for him in the general if he's the nominee. You know damned well what Hillary or Bernie will do to this country. There's no coming back from that.

No. That is not why liberals win. That is a lie.

The reason why liberals win is that losers get nominated.

BTW, America has never been a Christian nation. Go read a friggin history book for crying out loud.

I have stuff to do.

Enjoy.

you seem kind of tense.

You need a snickers bar, or some insulin?

And by the way, dig hard enough and you can find skeletons in anyone's closet. That perfect candidate doesn't exist.

Then why would Obama feel the need to declare we weren't any longer? Is this where I tell you to get a clue?

Really, Calvin?

I'm sure he gonna lose some...it's pretty much a given.

But a lot of Americans are looking at the past records of the candidates...the only one with a solid conservative record is the guy you're calling a loser. Trump backing hillary, reid, emanual, shumer etc. etc. shows me who the REAL loser is...He was also on record at supporting the AWB, TPP, Cap & Trade etc. etc.
Cruz may not win the nomination, but as of now, he's still got my support.

I think it's true.

Conservatives don't show up for whatever reason they disagree on.

Liberals show up regardless of whatever they disagree on.

This is my only complaint with Cruz, but it doesn't override his RECORD.

Here you go B

Cruz is going to blow the doors off in South Carolina just like Newt did 4 years ago. And pick up a lot more delegates (50) than Iowa.

Unlike Newt, Cruz has a national campaign going that nobody can match.

Another Trumpkin circle jerk.

Who would have thought it?

More to come... Nearly every hour.

JEB was right about one thing. "You aren't gonna insult your way into the Whitehouse." But, there's never a shortage of those willing to try.

Yeah,...Cruz never talks *to* people. He talks *at* people.

Steal a poor black mans votes so he could win, got to love that

We are a nation enamored with STDs. Which one do you like best?

In the primaries? Fine. In the general if he's the candidate? If not, then your a "cut off my nose to spite my face" type of Focking idiot.

Waaah....

They'll stay home and not vote for anyone if Trump isn't the nominee. Just to teach all us Non-Trumpkins a lesson, don'tcha know?

Which is actually fine by me. It just lets the "cleansing" start sooner so we can hit the re-set button.

If you don't like Cruz, Trump, I don't f'ing care. But who ever gets the nomination WE need to support them by voting for them

Not sound like and and act like some 3 year old and throwing a fit. I guess this subject flushed out the blue lever throwers.

My guess is one of the communists will steal the election anyway, what with dead people voting, multiple votes, electronic voting fraud, the commies got it in the bag.

And one more thing. As flave would say GFY.

I really liked the way Cruz handled this. At least he didn't avoid confrontation or side-step the question. The farmer in the video might as well be my Dad or a number of any other farmers from the corn belt. Everything in the video seems genuine (not contrived or set-up).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6cUDscjrNg

That's the front page of the Campfire lately.

Tell Lieutenant Dan we said Hi.

Stupid is as stupid does.

BOOM!

Sounds like you spend too much time hanging around fourth grader burger flippers.

Yes, he's a little preachy, but he's right. BTW, intelligent articulate people sound like Cruz when they talk about important matters. Holding this against the man says more about how Trumpeteers listen than about what Cruz says and how he says it.

Time to grow up and wake up.

I agree, Cruz needs to get off your territory

Who does he think he is anyway?

The problem is...Ted Cruz has committed no fraud during the Iowa Caucus.
Quoting news stories from legitimate news sources doesn't even come close.

Just more Trump fraud. Just like his Cruz citizenship fraud.

Just more Trump Kool-Aid. Slurp slurp

They make a pill for you. I'm not sure what it is, but you need to look into it.

There it is. Another liberal outed.

He's half Elmer Gantry, and half Joe McCarthy... And that's the positive.

I think Calvin is mad about the Cruz/Carson thing....me I blame CNN....chump trump reminds me of Willie e coyote's ...when he bought that sheep suit,and mixed with the herd ...but "Fred" caught him ...

I agree, CNN had/has some explaining to do. But whomever picked this up[from Cruz' camp] should have taken the minute it would have taken to confirm. It definitely hurt Carson and who knows exactly where those votes went?

well whoever the gawtdamm repub nominee is

we all need to vote for him no matter what

jeb is gonna be gone
after his money runs out
exercise in futility for him
the dude just aint got a clue that no one likes him.....

All issues aside, it does not help Cruz that he looks like he just wandered in off the set of "Madmen".

Quoting news stories from legitimate news sources doesn't even come close.
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You're either being intellectually dishonest or purposely moronic if you believe Cruz's campaign simply quoted CNN.

If he had done that, he wouldn't consistently wear ill fitting suits with sleeves that are three inches too long.

They'll stay home and not vote for anyone if Trump isn't the nominee.
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Who stated such a thing?

Does the term "pissing up a rope" ring a bell....

I did.

There's 2 Republican parties. The pissed off branch of the Republican party won't vote for anyone except the candidate that the pissed off Republicans have chosen.

Cruz's dirty tricks in Iowa have pissed them off just that much more.

It was a stupid thing for him to do.

As opposed to Trump's birtherism stances the last 8 years on both Obama and Cruz? You don't think it's "dirty tricks" to state that your leading opponent isn't even eligible for the job?

Here's something from the entrance polls from Iowa. While the other candidates continue to push their stands on issues, Trump is whining about Iowa. Is that stupid or smart just a few days before the next primary?



Even in New Hampshire, now may not be the time to lose focus and look like a petulant child.

WTF do y'all want a choirboy running as the GOP candidate? I want Darth Vader. Someone that will be just as ruthless and nasty as Harry Reid, Pelosi, Schummer, et. al..

Damn this BS that we have to hold the moral high ground. Politics today is the modern version of trench warfare. I want someone in office that will get down and get dirty. Darth Vader indeed.

While I don't disagree with this^^^^,Cruz' staff did not need to[help] spread a rumor that Carson was out in order to win.

But... we need more Boehner's and McConnells, that's apparently the gist of the Trump stand.

I'm just telling you how it is. I didn't make it that way. The RNC did.

The GOP is split. It's been split for a long time.

The same pattern is repeating this cycle.

The people pick a favorite (Trump) the establishment and its lackey propaganda media work nonstop to deny the Republicans their favorite candidate.

Another GOP candidate wins the nomination,..and a democrat wins the general election.

A lot of Republicans see the pattern and they're pissed off about it.

The pissed off Republicans won't vote for another candidate if the establishment scuttles the candidacy of the favorite.

That's just the way it is.

Wishing that it wasn't won't change things.

"But... we need more Boehner's and McConnells, that's apparently the gist of the Trump stand. "
Wrong
But as a Carson supporter it doesn't help if and when Cruz becomes the R candidate. The staff didn't need to do this.

Which is the same as voting for the Dems...At this point I will vote for anybody but a Dem or Martian .

Not to mention immigration, military and just plain ole strong moral values.

You geniuses who keep declaring you will not vote for a certain GOP nominee (whomever it is), best read what Sean posted over, over and over again.

In fact, the only place I hear this BS is on the Fire. Why am I here??

Primary time is not the time to mealy mouth your own partys candidates. Wait for the general election. We're doing damage to the party by running down our candidates, just vote for your choice.

geo

Sure they did. It was what any staff worth their salt would have done once they believed someone was dropping out on the day of the vote. Granted, they may have lacked discernment by using CNN for a source, but then Trumpettes refuse to understand their guy will NEVER be elected in the general since he has too high of any overall negative rating among voters other than them.

Exactly! You want to beat the Hildabeest come November you are going to need a mean Darth Vader like SOB. One who is just as nasty as the Democrats.


The milquetoasts and High Moral tone people will be so much cannon fodder if the RNC establishment sends one into the fray.

And to make matters worse, the future of the GOP, the youth of America, were all excited about voting for Ron Paul in 2012.

Now, I don't know if Ron Paul could have gotten elected in 2012 or not. But the establishment wasn't talking any chances. The establishment's media machine hated on Ron Paul and his supporters damn near every day, damn near all day, for months. Then the GOP changed its rules to make it even less likely that Ron Paul could get the nomination,...ignored him at the convention,...ignored his delegates (most of them young people),...and just generally behaved like azzholes.

Now,..the young people of America are supporting a Democrat Socialist.

Regardless of what happens in this election or even the next, the damage that the RNC has done to the Republican party in America won't be fixed any time soon. In fact, they're still working to damage it even further to-day.

I'm not a Cruz fan but I don't think he'll take the ball and go home if he doesn't get his way as Trump has shown himself to do. Trump lacks substance, lacks "sand." Pouting and walking away is not going to be a successful tactic sitting across the table from Putin even if it works with Megyn Kelly.

I don't see anyone on either side worthy of truly voting for but I see some I'll vote against a lot more than others. And I will vote.

Tom

when did trump do that?

I have issues with Cruz but I'll vote for him.

But I have to ask to anyone that is supporting Rubio at this point

how can you distinguish between him , McCain and Romney? If you are a Rubio supporter at this point then to generalize, you are ok with the establishment GOP.

Even if you supported Romney and/or McCain - they couldn't generate enough support and created so much apathy they couldn't beat Obama

so what makes you believe that Rubio has a shot, even with the "I'll vote for any piece of [bleep] candidate the GOP gives me" crowd voting for him?

So, if Trump IS the R candidate, you don't think that many of you Cruzettes won't sit home on your azz?

Which time?

I was thinking of him skipping the Iowa debate 'cause Fox didn't give him his way. That's going to be tough to do as president when tough decisions have to be made.

Oh,...you're one of them who believe that the way to show strength is to do whatever FOX tells you to do.

The adults realize the importance of protecting and defending the Constitution. There is only one guy in sight that has proven, time and again, what his values are. He proved it again over the Carson incident by owning (what was most likely an action by staff) and promptly apologizing. that's what real men and leaders do, own up to mistakes.

So put your big boy britches on if you feel your being preached at you probably need a little of it.

To the masses not whoever's name appears above:

So many ignorant people in the world!

One, if Doc's supporters are stupid enough to believe their candidate pulled out hours/minutes before the vote then so be it!

Two, if you can't understand the concept of vote your conscious in the Primary and your Party in the General then you are ignorant of the political process and no better then the RINO's or Libtards you rail against.

Three, as someone posted above this election is about the future of this Country concerning our Courts and neutering all of the crap pushed through under the Big Loser not who the figure head in chief is!

Mike

Just to add. Trump is whining about Cruz stealing the election. What in the hell is he going to do when he has to deal with Putin or N. Korea or the chicoms? miles

I hope Cruz wins and this is nothing more than my opinion/choice. Is Cruz the perfect candidate? not by a long shot, but no one ever will be. I have no intentions of trying to convince another person that my choice is right for them. We each have our own lives, morals, values, expectations, and that differs from person to person. We should all vote based on what is important to each of us. If Trump were to win the Republican ticket, I would have a very hard time voting for him, but I would do it because I believe the democrat choices are even worse, based on what is important to me. I have never voted republican or democrat, I always vote for the person that comes closest to meeting what is important to me, I swing both ways, haha. Again this is my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Right there with you bud.


Wish I was doing a little fishing with you instead of dealing with this political clown show down here.

Assuming hiLIARy does not get indicted and have to drop out,

those two options are what we have.

Will still vote for Rafael.

Poor sister Sarah, sour grapes because she picked a loser.

Are supporters of other candidates upset about the Cruz/Carson deal, or is it just Trumpeteers?



Would you Trumpeteers been this 'upset' if Trump had won?
(yeah, yeah, I know - OF COURSE you would have been! )

Do you want a president to bow down to someone elses terms. you will get that with the others.

Vote for whomever you want in the primary. After that is done, there will be two choices left for the general election. Without question, there will be many, both Republican and Democrat, who will be disappointed that their favorite choice did not make the cut. I have been in that circumstance several times in various elections. OK, so your favorite lost. Get over it - that is a done deal and that option no longer exists. What does exist then is a choice between the Democrat and Republican chosen candidates. NOTHING else then is relevant. It does not matter if you like the chosen candidate or not, one of the two is going to be president. Unless you either die or move to another country, one of the two is going to be YOUR president. So, which one do you want? It DOES make a difference as the Republican candidates are philosophically much different from the Democrats. Also, don't give me any bulls_it about not voting to show displeasure with either of the nominees. By not voting, you have effectively voted for whomever wins the election. So yes, not voting IS defacto voting. If you do not want a Democratic administration or if you do not want a Republican administration, go vote your choice because it is guaranteed that you WILL get one of the other no matter what you do.

Too much sense here.

Good question. I could care less. But maybe that's because I've made no candidate decision yet.

I doubt I even vote in the primaries.

However, in the big show. Whomever's wearing RED!!

Cruz said he didn't know anything about it, and I believe him. If he was smart, he ought to try to turn this around and try to make it work for him and find out who was behind it and fire them. Then he could come back and demonstrate to the world about accountability.

To all of those that will stay home during the general election if your guy doesn't get the nomination, you will never find the perfect candidate. Here are some facts to consider.

#1: The biggest threat to this country is Socialism.

#2: The 2008 election was Socialism vs. less Socialism.

#3: The 2012 election was Socialism vs. less Socialism & a little Capitalism.

#4: The 2016 election will be Socialism vs. Capitalism and some Conservatism.

#5: The best way to stop the Socialism is to vote for Capitalism and some Conservatism.

Keep in mind, you have 3 options. Vote for Socialism, vote for Capitalism & some conservatism, or stay home and vote for Socialism. What are you gonna do, vote to stop the Socialism or vote for the Socialism?

Maybe I don't understand the debate decorum here but the OP gave no specific examples to substantiate his claims. Canadian? Ok... That's been settled legally. Speaks like a televangelist? He's running for office. have you heard any of the others? Mighty thin and weak... Liberals and progressives make unsubstantiated claims all of the time. There is an old saying about repeating a lie often enough. If you can't offer a balanced discussion and an actual debate over specific issues, you are better off doing other things. Go fish.

All you need is an erection, and you can start a thread.

Cruz on FOX right now really giving it to Trump.

All hell is fixin' to break loose with Trump and his Tweets.

"Trumpertantrum!!" The word of the day.

The Trump klaxon is going off big time "Sore LOSE-r, sore LOSE-r, sore LOSE-r!"

Trumpertantrum indeed.

people still watch Fox News eh?

The scariest part of this entire ordeal is learning that so many among us are not conservatives. The problem isn't in Washington...it's right here.

Just as I suspected, another Cruzette.

Damn right Pat, people are scared of true conservatives...

Truth be known most people have their hand in the cookie jar, on some level,and are afraid it might get taken away, "conservatives" included.

Word.

+1

Sorry to break the news, the campfire doesn't quite have enough votes to elect much of anything, and appears to be as divided as the rest of the country.
So it is a good snapshot.

so you don't support Cruz, you aren't a conservative

is that the pitch today?

a few days ago it was SCOTUS is the only thing that matters

after that it was a vote for Trump is a vote for Rubio


its tough to keep up with all the reasons why I should vote for Cruz.

You guys are so counting on Cruz to win, you're really backing yourself into a corner if he doesn't.

The SCOTUS is all that matters in this election.

Vote your conscience in the primary. Vote for the R nominee, no matter who it is, in November.

This schit is only as hard as you personally make it.

Not really we know how to make the best of a not ideal situation

all the anti-Trump threads prove that.

If Trump wins the nomination I'll pull his lever but until then I support the conservative candidate

I wish trump would start trashing killary ......he does a fine job doging his own team 😈

Ahh, now see where you are coming from. So you feel the same way about "conservatives" as you do Cruz. Sorry, but I'll gladly vote for Ted Cruz. He has been the one man who calls out the sorry establishment republicans as much as he does the pathetic liberal progressive demon-crats!

Ted Cruz would be a great president that America could be proud of.

So who then do you support for president?


Cruz 2016!

You are 100% correct!

I agree with you sir!

Have there been any anti-Trump threads? If so, I don't believe there have been many. Lots of anti-Cruz threads (even an anti-Cruz's wife thread) and quite a few pro-Trump threads, particularly earlier. What there have been are quite a few anti-Trump posts on all of the above. Mostly because people want to understand the attraction to the unattractive.

No way, no how, Trump is the only anti-establishment candidate, if even he is that. There should be no doubt Cruz is. The establishment dislikes Cruz as much as we dislike them. That should be enough for most people, but for the bluster of Trump, a totally unknown quantity. Well, that's not really true: it's Trump's suddenly 180 degree changed rhetoric that is the unknown quantity as to honesty. But hey, how could a four time bankrupt silver spoon billionaire who runs casino's lie? Right?

Life is truly stranger than fiction.

Isn't that the truth! Hillary and Bernie should be the targets-no one else!

The real sleaze here is Trump. Lying about birther and now
the election was stolen by Cruz.


Trump is nothing more than a New York Liar.

He has to "try" and slander his way to a win along with sister Sarah.

I would no sooner pull the lever for this closet liberal than I would for Hilary.

If Trump is running against Hillary or a similar demoncrap, I will put on my gas mask, hold a gun to my head, and vote for the charlatan. Then if it turns out like I think it will, I'll run you idiots to the ground.

If he's running against Bernie, I'll stay home and wait for the fun to start.

Yea, the takers are out numbering the payers.

Yep

If Cruz is pure sleaze, does that make hiLIARy pure sleaze+P?

All else pales in comparison to the SCOTUS issue..

The older I get, the less often that happens...

In my opinion,this another reason Trump is unelectable.
How does anyone know that Cruz got all of the votes that didn't go to Dr.Carson,maybe Trump himself got some?
Trump showed good composure the night of the caucus,then the next,starts whinning about Cruz stealing it.
CNN started the mess unfortunaley Cruz' camp ran with it.

You just need some T
No worries, but your breasts might grow too.

Yep, go play with your blocks.

lol



Does that explain the frequency of the somewhat pubescent tone which so many threads seem to have?

A most excellent assessment of things. Conservatives not voting in 2008 and 2012 are why we have Obama.

THIS ^^^

That, yes.

The other way to look at it, no pun intended, is that if you have a hard on for something, start a thread..

And running establishment losers for president is why voters with a conscience won't vote for that loser.

Generally, humans appear to avoid slavery when they have an option.

But that doesn't appear to be the case in the political arena in the US.

People on this site deride the blacks for votin D, no matter the moron runnin, or the possible damage to the country.

And those same people deride anyone who won't pull the lever for a R, no matter the moron runnin.

Blacks get fcked over because their vote is guaranteed D. There's no reason to change the status quo to their benefit, and there won't be until they demand a change. None dispute that here.

And yet, those same posters demand total obeisance in lever-pulling to the R party. And concomitantly, there will never be a reason to change the status quo to the R voters' benefit.

But here we are, with a buncha R legs wavin in the air on this site, proudly shoutin' "fck me, fck me, I'll still vote for the R"

Apparently, there's an attraction in bein fcked over by the one you voted for, as opposed to the one you didn't.

Yup, and it will keep happening as long as Republicans nominate liberals. Get over it. There are only two sides...conservative and liberal. Pick your poison.

Good God some are dense

No wonder your post count is low.

Cruz supports a balanced budget, which crushes 90% of the stupidity currently taking place. Do you receive a government check, by chance?

Evidently, 'Make America Great Again' means we all get to sculpt our own personal ideals after Trump is elected.

Republicans not voting was the problem.

Your personal belief as to the degree of conservatism amongst those republicans impacted only upon you.

Admitting the problem is the first step in attempting to solve it.

Good on ya.

Obviously ...they're trying to nominate more liberals. How many times does it take?

Waaaaa!

Thanks for understanding you are the problem
Now do something about it and vote no matter who is nominated or you could continue to cut off your nose to spite your face

No one told our caucus about Carson and I was a precinct captain in Des Moines. I don't believe it was widespread.

Give up, dvd.

He's probably already shot off both feet and his dikk.

What if Cruz isn't the nominee?

Are you gonna suck it up for Rubio or Bush (it could happen)?

Don't receive no government check, and get audited every year. So stick your attempt at insult up your Cruz.

You incompetently assume every post is an attack on TC. Not at all.

You're apparently happy to vote for Cruz. No problems with that.

But the suggestion is, that the population here support whoever gets the nomination.

Which means, even if it's someone you don't like you have to vote for them, and that's idiotic.

The only power a person's vote has, is to hold the promise of that vote to effect change in the person they're asked to vote for, until that candidate's views match their own, as much as possible.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/10926662/The_Order#Post10926662

How important is keeping your guns?

What you do with your vote is your business. Anybody that chooses not to vote is purely irrelevant.

Iowa Caucus pulled all kinds of establishment, insider, dirty tricks to give Cruz the win. It won't be so easy for the insiders to manipulate the results in the real primary states, where actual voters can show up and vote.

Cruz is indeed a total fake and a real slime ball.

It is so important that I do not pledge my vote unless and until I am confident that the vote I cast will be for a candidate that will uphold my right.

And I expect that candidate, if elected to follow through, under penalty of citizen revolt, to the extent necessary.

Well,...the annual deficit has been running somewhere between 800 billion and 1.2 trillion over the past decade or so.

I'd be interested to hear where Cruz or anybody else is going to find a trillion dollars a year to cut out of the American government's budget.

The U.S. military budget alone is 600 billion dollars. That ain't going anywhere.

No, If you support Trump you don't KNOW if you're supporting a conservative, for all the many reasons previously mentioned over and over again.

That's been the pitch all along.

That, and since a majority voter negative impression of him precludes his winning the general, what difference, at any point, does it make anyway.

Get the government out of the way of business and let them generate more tax revenue. But you know that.

No, what it means is that you now have the choice of your maybe less than preferred GOP candidate vs a surefire, more of the same progressive liberal Demoncrat........that's more or less a no-brainer for most reasonable & semi-intelligent quasi-conservatives.



And if you don't get that promise to your full satisfaction, do you stay home & further help the election of a full blown Demoncrat as described above?

If you do, that's complete & utter lunacy as defined by the phrase "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face".

MM

They're all sleazes to one extent or the other. Saints don't get elected to the most powerful office in the world.

You want another 8 years like you've had?

Keep finding fault with every single person who doesn't fit your half assed pre-conceived notions of perfection.Stay home and whine like girls. You'll get it and then some.

People need to grow up.

Don't project hyperbole into the discussion. It's a lame excuse for intelligent discourse.

Nobody's perfect, and ain't nobody ever gonna be perfect.

You decide your priorities, and communicate them to candidates that are within the range of possibility, to seek to secure their commitment to agree to further those objectives.

Sending a contribution, with the suggestion of further contributions, will increase the chance of a response, of course. Something DT learned a long time ago, but is apparently over the heads of some here.

When you've done your best, as is your duty as a citizen, you make the call based upon which candidate either:

Has already agreed with your demands; or

Has most closely agreed with your demands.

Then, you demand that the agreement be followed, after the election.

Well stated.

So, you'll withhold your vote if you don't get your preferred candidate or not?

Easy peasy, yes or no.

MM

It seems funny to me that anyone that thinks that this was a so-called trick,is grasping at straws again.

If it really bothers you that much just look at the report from CNN,for your self.

Cruz folks just went with what the news folks said.
I will still vote for Cruz when the time comes.

Get me up to speed please, exactly what happened in the last five days, that warranted this thread.......

What did I miss?

And no, I havent/won't read all this thread trying to find the answer.

I'll vote, as always, for the candidate I deem the best, in my opinion.

If that's all right with you.

[quote=Kenneth
Get me up to speed please, exactly what happened in the last five days, that warranted this thread.......

What did I miss?

And no, I havent/won't read all this thread trying to find the answer. [/quote]

It would seem,CNN ran a story during the caucucs,that Dr Ben was dropping out.(He said he was going home),someone from the Cruz camp reported it again as if he was out.Now the Trumpsters feel as if Cruz(somehow)got all the votes Carson didn't and won the caucus.
that's how I see it

seems to me Trump and Cruz are at the extreme's, hence why Rubio is probably a solid choice to take Hilary on ?

He is. So is Cruz, if you want the more conservative of the two. Trump can't beat Rubio, no matter what.

But that is not a practice you'll let the rest of us adhere to without your scorn and ridicule?

So you'd vote for Cruz, Trump or Rubio if any of those 3 become the GOP nominee?

MM

We don't lose elections by lost kook votes. We lose them by lost base votes.

exactly!! But some will then label YOU as the bigger part of the problem.

Just look around.

That depends on how big that kook population is on voting day.

I'm beginning to think that the Trumpistas, which appear to be a fair % of the GOP vote, will cry foul, fix, unfair, etc., when the Donald doesn't get the nomination. & stay home..........& that's enough kooks to make a pretty big distance.

MM

You're an idiot, as always.

But, at least you're consistent.

My scorn and ridicule is reserved, as yours is, you would realize did you have the capacity to reason, for those that are blindly intimidated into supporting a cause or candidate without a basis of agreement as to the best course of action for the country.

A few might, but the smart ones will vote for the Republican nominee and a lot of Trump's support comes from people who polled Sanders as their first choice and Trump as their next.

Red states the last go around will be red states this go around. So apparently to kook convention that is need are in some of the blue states, which are mostly Yankee states. Therefore, Yankees are kooks.


See how easy that is.

If the Trump support here is any indication, it's coming from people that don't vote anyway.

Did you throw a bunch of words up in the air and see where they landed?

After the Primary I'm voting against the communist candidate, for God's sake I plugged my nose and voted for Mitt Romney.

Mike

You're leaving out the nig-factor. Without one on the ticket, lots of them will stay home and the "novelty" for the leftists to support a "black POS" won't be there.

Not entirely, there are 2 new novelty flavors this go around on the lib side. 'Hey, I voted for the first PROCLAIMED Socialist president' or 'Hey, I voted for the first WOMAN president'

5 bucks if hilary gets the D-nod, and is behind in the polls come November, she comes out of the closet.

Fubarski,



When I pulled the lever for McCain and Romney, I was not pulling the lever for them. I was pulling it against Obama. This might be hard to understand for some, but I think you can get it.

Not even the Ds like that bitch.

Anyone have a link to the Monday CNN story that caused the kurfuffle?

No cable and almost never go to their website.

I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced yet.

Lots of blind people in that party.

MM

If the Ds liked her, she'd have won in '08, and currently Bernie wouldn't be beating her like a rented mule.

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin...show-that-is-the-cruzcarson-nontroversy/

Thanks fellas.

Amazing how much commotion and trouble are caused from this whole tweeting craze.

I can say with all confidence that I am thankful to have never ever sent the first tweeter or whatever the heck it's called.

And after all of this I never will!

Book it!!

It wasn't just Cruz's people either. They all got the news.

I seem to recall Cruz being for auditing the fed - until it actually came time to stand up and be counted.

So Cruz may support many things while he runs for president.

He may enjoy pissing off other RINOs that are firmly hated by the heartland...while he's running for president

but once he's president, its a matter of faith he'll deliver

just like he did on auditing the fed.

really screwed over those Ron Paul folks didn't he?

and if you're wondering about me - I don't get a check from the government at any level.

When it comes down to a Rubio v. Hitlery or Sanders election on Nov., in OH, what will you do?

stay home

Figures. The socialist left thanks you for being a fool. Don't bitch when the SCOTUS goes HARD left for the next 40 years. You've only yourself and those like you to blame.

If voting made a difference ….it would be illegal !

go eat a bologna sammich!!

I've quit giving a phug about this line of reasoning long ago

I don't reward the GOP for force feeding me a candidate. Its clear to anyone that the people want Trump or Cruz.

If that voting situation arises by all means, blame me for the state of the country

Rubio is the guy to fix it and I was just too blind to see it.

Well, if you really recall that, you know Cruz actually co-sponsored that bill and the preliminary vote the day before squashed any chance of it passing. He had more important things to do than watch RINOs and Democrats gloat about his bill failing.

exactly - he was all in for show until it was time to stand up and fight for it.

pretty much what his presidency will be.

They'll be doing alot more gloating while he finds more important things to do.

If you give a schit about what is left of your rights under the Constitution, you'd pull your head out of your ass and recognize the difference between any R and Hitlery or Sanders.

Good lord.

its crazy how much you're drinking the kool aid

Cruz can do no wrong in your eyes

let me reiterate

I've quit giving a phug about this line of reasoning long ago

feel free to vote for a corrupt party candidate that does all it can to kill off the peoples choice...you can even manage to feel patriotic doing it.

Don't blame him BUT yes!!

Sure he can, but I don't care much for lies about anybody. Show me some lies about Trump and I'll defend him too.

After you stay home, at least have the common decency to STFU for the next 4 years because you will have given up the right to bitch. You'll have done nothing to try to even mitigate the problem, and therefore have no grounds to say a f'king word.

Rubio is WAY down my list.... That said, he's WAY above Hitlery or Sanders. Not voting R is...well...the only way you can help Hitlery or Sanders MORE is to vote for them. You'll be electing them without even voting. You're one of their strongest partners and they greatly appreciate it!!!!

did he co sponsor the bill on audit the fed

did he not show up for the vote?

these are not lies, these are yes or no questions.

Cruz - all sizzle, no steak

voting for Rubio means you get another Rubio like candidate in 4 or 8 years and we'll be going on 20 years of "holding my nose and voting blindly whoever has an R beside their name"

I'm past done supporting this nonsense.

If you want to compare histories, try Trumps as well. He has none, legislatively, but his financial backing and public endorsements are well known.

I'll still vote for any of them on the R ticket, history still standing, because of the alternative from the Ds. There's a hint there; see if you can find it.

I'm pretty sure I pointed this out to you the first time you tried to "make this dog hunt" :

If Cruz had left the campaign and gone back for that vote,there would have been 10 Yea votes instead of 9.

Can you please find something more substantial to criticize him for?

Maybe change the source for your talking points?

Do you still beat your wife? The bill was dead. Get over it and try to find something real if you want to help your boy. You might even try finding something good about him to say.

LOL

I'm just jealous. I haven't had a drink in quite a while.

Staying home means 4-8 years of Hitlery or Sanders with 3-6 SCOTUS replacements as far left as possible. If you're not smart enough to figure that difference out, you honestly don't deserve the right to vote in the first place. It's an even worse shame that you're in a state where your vote actually counts. Were you in MA or TX or the PRK or similar where your vote is irrelevant, then acting like a petulant brat wouldn't really matter. Unfortunately, OH counts and your petulance is destructive.

I tell you what - why don't you type about 18 more pages of this and see if it makes a difference. There's a hint in there for you too

I agree with you, but the alternative of having 4 or 8 more years of Clinton or Sanders is better? Rubio is not even on my radar for one I'd support...but if it's him or Clinton/Sanders he'll get my vote.

oh, ok, well thats makes it alright. Walk away from the fight you started. We need that kind of pragmatism as president.

I can fix that!! With the good stuff in fact!

I'm sure it won't. You'll trade the last remaining chance at the Constitution for a petulant selfishness. Don't ask later what went wrong; you'll only have to look in the mirror for the answer.

I'm already asking what went wrong

Look in the mirror. The "well, I'll just stay home and pout" population gave us Hussein; twice.

Ya'll *do* realize that Cruz has accomplished exactly nothing during his time in the senate, don't you?

It just may be that his votes are as carefully crafted as O'Buckwheat's "present" votes, fronting a persona that is backed by absolutely no substance.

Which would explain his incredible outburst at the passage of TPP. His vote for the TPP was based upon the fact that it wasn't supposed to pass, but McConnell let it pass anyway.

So Cruz comes out and calls McConnell a liar, no good SOB, etc.

Why would Cruz do that when he voted *for* the bill, which passed?

Because it destroyed his carefully crafted outsider conservative eminence front.

Wasn't the passage of the bill that pi$$ed off TC, it was the public revelation that he wasn't a conservative.

Cruz's sponsorship of the audit bill, combined with his no-show at the vote, matches perfectly with his all show, no go, conservative act.

I understand Cruz was busy attempting to further his own career.

Hey, a politician's gotta do what a politician's gotta do, right?

You're wrong, Calvin. He's an intelligent, adroit, and well versed constitutional lawyer. Look at what he did as the Texas AG. Anybody in this game simply has to play politics, but this guy has a better resume than anyone we've seen run for president in my lifetime.

But you gotta make your own decisions. Weigh the alternatives...

This time around you will definitely see shadow images of many others of the same cloth and from this very site.

Please make sure they wear name tags!!

Did anyone say 'YANKEES' yet?

that can't be, I'm pretty sure the consensus on the fire going into Hussein's election was that Ron Paul voters don't make a difference.

What I've learned on the fire is I'm the reason our country has dire issues and it will only get solved if I vote for the person someone else tells me to vote for.

Nah...Cruz has done a whole lot less than nothing...he has stopped a whole lot of "something" that the establishment (R and D) has proposed. That's more than the other Republicans can say.

Statistics say otherwise.

The "stay at home" vote gave Hussein several states, and the elections. The Paulistas were part of that, as were the hard core Bible thumpers.

what are all the things he stopped?

...didn't want to steal your thunder.

You do recall a gov't "shut down", correct?

Still waiting for what Trump has accomplished, other than funding D candidates.

You're part of the problem!!!

I'm hoping one will eventually prove me wrong, but to date, none have.

we'll see how Trump does in New Hampshire.

The Cruzettes might be starting alot more anti-Trump threads

Take another drink. You get funnier the drunker you get. At least that's something.

Cruz didn't stop TPP.

And the .gov shut down caved.

Never sponsored impeachment legislation.

Any real results, or are we stuck with his rep as "tryin'" to stop stuff?

Are we stuck with Trump funding D candidates?

the martini hour is over for the evening.

what did he accomplish with that shut down?

Trump has accomplished more successful legislative activity through the bribery of Demorats, while outside congress, than Cruzzzzzz ever did while a sitting member of congress.

Well, the kooks were a little of it, but the majority were just apathetic conservatives that didn't see much difference in the candidates. There was no protest, they just didn't think it was worth the trouble. I'm not defending them, but I know them. I'll invoke Steelhead here, but I heard the same line again and again...

"What's the difference between a Massachusetts Assh*le and an Illinois %^&&*#"?.

He outed the real enemy...the establishment.

I'll give you credit for trying that response as opposed to talking about Trump

it failed....badly....but I can respect the effort.

Oh, I'm sure he has; but what legislation Hitlery, Weiner, Gillibrand, Schumer, et al., have gotten passed is entirely the question.

Yet, here's the difference - if Trump wins the R nomination, I'll vote for him; just as I will any of the others on the R side. Why? Because Hitlery or Sanders is that much worse than any of them to everything that is important to me. The idiots who back Trump, or Cruz, or Carson, or whomever else that pull the "well, MY person didn't get the nomination for the Rs, so I'll just stay home and pout" are a petulant, adolescent, selfish lot and no better than the Ds in destroying what's left of the Constitutional Republic.

You work with the retarded on your time off?

so you're done talking about what Cruz accomplished?

What would he have accomplished by being the tenth, and final, Yea vote for auditing the Fed?

You're being awfully inconsistent.

Is that from drinking Trumpade?

The legislation they got passed, if any, they got passed over the impotent efforts, if any, of Cruzzzzzz.

When was I talking about his accomplishments?

The choice is the R nominee, or Hitlery or Sanders. Of course, you continue to avoid the quoted part above because you'd rather stamp your feet and act like a child than put your adult pants on and be responsible.

Now that's funny!

You mean the D legislation from those that Trump supported? Like ObamaCare?

bzzt...wrong answer

what does the government shutdown and co sponsoring audit the fed have in common?

showmanship without results.

Man this place gets entertaining every four years.

What do funding D campaigns and ObamaCare, the Iran deal, Hussein's budget demands, Kagan and Sotomayor, etc., have in common?

I know who I'll vote for in the primaries and I know who I will vote AGAINST in the election.


Seems pretty simple to me, but I ain't as smart as many here obviously.

That *your* choice - getting closer to those 18 pages btw

No wonder OH is f'ked...

that's never stopped you from telling everyone you are

Because it's filled with YANKEES?

You're right there as well; though, I'm at least making sense. Your stamping of feet like a school girl is humorous, though.

I'm smart enough to not live in Ohio, that's gotta be worth a few points dontcha think?

based on your response to every question lately, I'm going to say Trump?

He clearly outsmarts the OH contingent by a mile, and that's saying something.

Not hardly.

DT can explain his support for that, if there was any.

I'm talkin about mafia-like payoffs to Demonrat legislators, to protect his investments from government interference.

Trump's contributions to Ds were in the nature of protection payments, nothing more.

A person has to have a history in a business subject to gov't regulation to understand the concept.

Yet, I'll still back him if he gets the R nod, because Hitlery or Sanders is that much worse.

I realize that this logic is beyond your petulant thinking at the moment, but there's time between now and Nov for you to at least borrow a clue and figure it out.

eh..I don't get worked up about Ohio insults.

Why should you; the entire state is an insult to the rest of America.

I imagined you wouldn't.

Probably saved you a few years cause of the incest laws, anyway.

I've told you twice it won't but you can't help yourself apparently.

Ohio has chance to go Red, it's one of the few, but if this is glimpse into the brain trust of Ohio, we are f(cked. Of course if the future of the country depends on a few Yankee states, we are f*cked already.

I'm not related to your mom.

that won't stop you from trying

Not in the least, I've learned long ago you can't shame a coward.

No, I understand that'd you'd rather stay home, pout, and suck your thumb than be an adult and take some responsibility for the course of the nation. That's abundantly clear.

yankee doesn't get the desired response, lets see if coward does

it won't

And that can all be solved by voting for who you tell me I should vote for.

As I said

You may get your chance....

Sycamore

I haven't told you who to vote for. You have a primary coming up; vote your choice and your conscience. In Nov., you have a choice between the R nominee and either Hitlery or Sanders. Voting puts one full vote against H/S; staying home and pouting gives them 1/2 vote.

A schit eating dog is better than Hitlery or Sanders, though you'll assuredly vote for either Hitlery or Sanders.

Hmmm even a "yankee" could figure that out
It's really cut and dry but something about a horse and water

You're a northerner, not a yankee, and certainly not a damnyankee. The differences are obvious.

You know a lot less than you think you do, but that has been evident for a long while.....

Sycamore

hmmm...so the GOP is counting on my vote this election.

Doubtful; if only obviously.

OH is a battleground state; up for grabs. Each vote there counts, and every stay at home and pout counts as well. Figure it out.

I can't think of any reason not to vote but a dozen reasons to vote.

I'm hoping I won't have to hold my nose this time but I'm not holding my breath.

Exactly. This schit ain't hard, though clearly it's beyond the abilities of some to figure it out.

Are we done talkin about the fact Cruzzzzz never did shat while in the senate, now?

4ager isn't interested in telling us about Ted Cruz's accomplishments as Senator

he's backing Rubio now.

ok, ok, you've convinced me to vote

Gary Johnson in 2016

I'm swelling with civic pride.

Been readin' up on donkey shows, is my guess.

If he has to he will as will I

Well, least RubRINO got the Gangbang o'eight thing goin for him.

I've not backed Cruz or Rubio. The only one in the race that I've ever backed to any degree is Carson because I met him long before he started running and believe him to be a very good, decent man. He won't win, though. I've stated, time and again, that I'll vote for the R candidate in Nov, regardless, whether it's Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Carson, or even Christie.

None of them are perfect. Hell, none of them are even pretty good; they all have faults and schit for histories. They are each still better than Hitlery or Sanders.

I won't stay home and pout like some petulant Ohioan and think that it doesn't matter.

Cruz may not have accomplished much in the Senate. Trump certainly backed the worst Ds in Congress. Rubio got into the Gang of 8. Christie is... Christie... Compared to Hitlery or Sanders, with at least three SCOTUS seats on the line, it's a no-brainer.

Please tell me those states and how they changed the elections.

VA, PA, and FL. Those three swung the election. Check the numbers of Rs that stayed home in each.

Oh please!!!

Okay let's go there. Please tell me or US the accomplishments of any and all of the candidates!!

In fact, just one! Who has really accomplished what??

Just take a pull from your flask and drop the damned red hammer.

Trump screws hot chicks and builds tall buildings

If you hold your nose AND hold your breath you're going to pass out long before the election.

And then you'll miss the 'Fire Trumpkin vs. Cruzealot MMA tourney we're building up to.

Hmmmm then we should be POTUS!!

Well no tall buildings but 4 stories or so.

Naa just think would guys on the 'fire would be saying about us

whats the definition of insanity again?

doing the same thing expecting different results?

that's why people are looking to Trump. Its insanity to keep voting in these career politicians.

Trump's made billions of dollars for thousands of people, and employed probably close to a half million (guessin here).

Trump's also been bankrupt.

Trump came back from the bankruptcy, and convinced people to invest their hard-earned dollars in his projects.

Trump has dealt with others with their hard earned $ on the line, and succeeded in making deals that were beneficial to the business he was in.

People vote in elections for politicians with *way* less scrutiny, emotion or angst than they do with their hard earned dollars.

And Trump has earned their votes ($).

He's an arrogant, egotistical ass hole, but he's *my* type of arrogant, egotistical ass hole.

My main issue is illegal immigration. I believe Trump is the most likely to accomplish a decrease in illegal immigration.

Fair enough, and no disagreement (with the concepts; the numbers are quite likely way off).

However, if Trump doesn't win the R nomination the choice will still be between the R nominee and either Hitlery or Sanders. What is your choice then?

How about you post the accomplishments of your preferred candidate?

You might make it easier for me to answer your question.

Top pediatric neurosurgeon on the planet. Led teams of the best specialists in life and death cases on a daily basis. I've already said he's the only one I've supported to any degree, and because I met/knew him before he started running and found him to be a good, decent man.

Carson won't win. No big deal.

Question stands; in Nov., it's the R nominee vs Hitlery or Sanders - what is your choice then? Me? I'm voting R whether it's Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Christie, Carson, Fiorina, or a schit eating dog (that might be Jeb...) Any of them are better than Hitlery or Sanders. What is your choice at that point?

What's Carson's stance on illegal immigration?

Trump never declared BR. HUGE difference.

I can see some people sayin that, but to me that's a politician's answer, and I'd prefer Trump just admit it just went bad, and it's one o' those things.

Came back from it, and here I am now.

Not that it matters to the question posed to you, but...

Strictly enforce immigration laws. Hold accountable and punish employers who hire illegals. Cut off benefits to those here illegally

Now, in November it will be the R nominee (whomever that is) vs Hitlery or Sanders; what is your choice?

Regardless! Other peoples money and junk bonds. HUGE difference!

Other than creating jobs via multiple smart BR's what has Donald trump done for this country??

Again, what have any of them done??

Sad part for me is in the end I will vote for any one of them. Does not matter!!

There's a better answer than that. Trump's businesses in NJ filed bankruptcy. Instead of a Chapter 7 liquidation and wiping out the debt, he had them file a Chapter 11 restructuring that HE personally guaranteed with his own wealth. No one was laid off, no one was fired, and the businesses paid back the debts owed under a new restructured agreement. Had they failed to do so, he would have personally had to settle the debts.

I'd still like more details, but Carson would be chosen over any of the Ds, and that's an easy choice.

It's not a Carson v Hitlery or Sanders question. It's an R nominee (any of them) vs Hitlery or Sanders question; what do you do?

Do you have any experience in life that doesn't involve having your head being up your fugking ass?




Dave

Creating jobs is the greatest accomplishment a person can have in this country, on an every-day basis.

It ain't the politicians, or hollywood people that do that, it's regular people that put their lives on the line for dream.

They say only the soldiers can know what battle is like, and that's true.

But it's also true that only those people that put their entire financial lives on the line to follow their dream can appreciate the results of that endeavor.

Mathematical formula:

What are their positions on illegal immigration x How much can I trust them?

Have you done that yourself? Because you seem to have a pretty tenuous grasp on how bankruptcy works within our tax laws.






Travis

Simple math - there SCOTUS justices x 40 years = illegal immigration, 2A, ObamaCare, welfare state, etc.

Not simple to me.

I would communicate my demands for my vote to the candidate in the position to need my votes.

If that candidate doesn't capitulate to my demands, I won't vote for that person.

If that results in an adverse result, due to the actions of other voters electing an incompetent, then I'll suffer the consequences.

But I'll suffer them as a free and independent person that wouldn't buckle to popular demand.

And if that results in the gov't coming after me, for my guns, or whatever, I'll die the best I can, and honestly.

Sounds kind of dark, and certainly its improbable, but I'll strive to preserve the power of my vote, or my vote no longer has any power.

It's a lost cause time to move on

No offense, but thank God MO ain't a battleground state.

I heard they took the word gullible out of the dictionary...


















HA! made ya look!

Nope, MOtown never went for O'Buckwheat.

He never even campaigned here.

And MOtown went Santorum in the primary.

Way ahead of the curve on anti-establishment candidates.

Any candidate who didn't tell you to go royally fuqq yourself wouldn't be fit for office.

"Capitulate to my demands." That's rich.

I really don't think we're that far apart.

You just prefer the death of a thousand cuts, and I prefer to rip the bandage off.

If your vote has no power, you're a slave, not a citizen.

Apparently, you're happy being a slave.

I got no problems with that.

But not everyone doesn't think, like you do.

More like syphilis your brain has gone soft

dvdoofus, the adults are talking.

Dora the Explorer is on the tv over in the corner, so go play nice.

You're real hoot and an adult is a far over reach

doof, clue:

This is the innanet.

You can post a reasoned response to a previous post, or you can post the shat you post.

Apparently you lack the capacity.

No problem with that, the world needs morons, too.

The world thanks you for your magnanimous contribution in that department

I'm on your side.

If there's ever an opening for a third assistant cock sucker at a mongolian cluster f*ck, I'm sure your a shoo-in.

Thank you very Trump like

Welcome. Let us know how it goes.

Tell us more about natural born citizenship and tax law.

You clueless bitch.




Dave

Fixed it!

Like Trumpussy you mean.

always knew there was sumpthin I liked about you


gets easier to put a finger on it day by day

Don't need to respect Stupid..and Calvin fits the bill.
And he can go and FH, next time hes on the ocean hope his boat sinks

Some of y'all need to read the instructions on a Claymore.

These Trumpkins still crying about the Carson kerfuffle..wwhat a bunch of stupid Forks. Carson was done a long time ago..
Ben thanks for the effort ..but go home

we are such a soft target for the Dems when they get us infighting like this.


my idea of a perfect candidate is never going to match everyone else's.


but I hope when it comes to the general election we can find our big boy pants on and vote at least for the lesser of two evils.


for it is just that LESS EVIL


nope not as good as best or good, or even okay


but LESS Evil beats more evil every day of the week.

The really scary part is what's going to be needed to be done to fix this problem. "This country ain't big enough for the both of us" mentality.
The POS that wants to "fundamentally change" America and their ilk need to leave while the leaving is good.

yep

The ONLY thing you need to know is the old guard and Washington HATES Cruz.

Cruz will STAND up to them . Rubio, Trump and the rest will play ball ….sameo sameo.

Try to figure it out.
No one is perfect, we have to hang together or Hillary will be in.

Hillary may be ordained….. the book of Revelations , says " A popular ant-christ ( obama) will be followed by a cloven- hooved satan ".

I asked on here before "What will Trump do when he loses Iowa?"

Now I know.

He will whine like Calvin.

Jimmy Carter's statement regarding Trump and Cruz.

It's the best endorsement Cruz could get.

For once I tend to agree with Jimmy!



Exactly why I support Cruz! Well said Jimmy. I couldn't have said it better.

I think it's funny you want Calvin to die in a boating mishap simply because he doesn't care for Cruz, yet you live and pay taxes in IL.





Dave

Win New Hampshire?





Travis

The good thing about you guys is the fact that refute your statements, others don't have to resort to character assassination...

You do a fine job of that on yourself.

Congrats on getting the first part of your user name right.

I like cruz just fine.
But hes not going to win OH,PA,FL or NY.
Giving the general election to Kun-ton or the commie.
Your kidding yourselves if you think can.
dave

NY? OMG

The last several elections have shown us that if we depend on Pa. to help secure our gun rights........ we are screwed.

No matter who gets chosen as the Republican candidate, if you value your remaining 2ND Amendment rights and have any hope for this country for your children, you better get out and vote. Even if you have to hold your nose while dong it.

If Hilliary or Bernie get a new address on Inauguration Day, this country will undergo a change that it will never recover from. Its time to bury petty chit and your personal ego trips about this or that candidate and recognize reality and what it will be if you stay home and don't vote because your perfect candidate didn't cut the muster. You definitely won't be doing your children any favors by staying home.

Right. And you better elect the most conservative man possible, because you are ONE Supreme Court Justice away from losing the Constitution.

I've watched both parties debates and while it hasn't moved me to quit my job and volunteer for a campaign- anyone on the Republican stage will do a better job as president than Hillary and Bernie.

Hard to believe the party with the largest number of Americans has gone so far left that socialism sounds o.k. to them.

Absolutely, but only a couple can win now, and that's Rubio and Cruz.

If its Rubio and Cruz.
And not Trump.
Then its auomatic for Kun-ton or the commie.
Neither one will stand a chance.

dave

I can't decide if that's what you really believe or what you want the rest of the non-cruzettes to believe.

Trump had 11,000 people show up in Arkansas last night. The last person/ group to get close to that number in that location was ZZ Top.

Right. And you better elect the most conservative man possible, because you are ONE Supreme Court Justice away from losing the Constitution. [/quote]


Wow! The Constitution goes away with one Supreme Court Justice change? Did you sleep through your civics class or do you just listen to Wretch Limpdick for your education?

Try to not live in such a state of fear. Be an example to your family instead of a nut.

Speaking of liberals...

My biggest one IS the government.

Wow! Liberal logic at its best to get what they want.

Wow! The Constitution goes away with one Supreme Court Justice change? Did you sleep through your civics class or do you just listen to Wretch Limpdick for your education?

Try to not live in such a state of fear. Be an example to your family instead of a nut. [/quote]

You haven't a clue, and that's only glaringly obvious.

Yeah, and besides, Alan Dershowitz is fully supporting Ted.

....that chews her cud.

That's not true.

Lumping the folks we need to win this, in whatever form it takes, into "yankees" or "dour southern secessionists" or what-have-you, is not much of a winning formula. It's time to 'suck it up, Buttercup' and get this done. We can disagree all we want right now as long as we can 'agree to agree' when the sorting is done.

As far as I'm concerned, it's real simple: make a list of all 20 choices- or however many there are. Put them in order from best to worst (IYO). Cross 'em off as they drop off. Vote for the top of your list in the general election. It ain't rocket science.

Same here!

Ben Carson is a class act and has really been my choice from day one. But as you say he will not be elected.

He handled the assumed IOWA incident in a very professional manner. Just wants folks to do the right thing.

We could all learn something from this man.

Don't vote ….because some GOP candidate / nominee does not fill yer litle ol' jingle-jangle noggin the way you want.

That's how obama was elected.

Now stay home and pout …..we will have hillary and she will put obama on the Supreme court.

Wow! The Constitution goes away with one Supreme Court Justice change? Did you sleep through your civics class or do you just listen to Wretch Limpdick for your education?

Try to not live in such a state of fear. Be an example to your family instead of a nut. [/quote]Looks like your last name is nut.

RickyD,
Did you attend a Iowa CaCa ?

The stay at home geniuses are easier to spot than a retard in a room full of beach balls...

Vote for who we tell you to or you're an idiot!

that's one helluva motivational pitch

While I can't vouch for the map below, if correct, it looks to me like those three states going red would not have changed the outcome of the 2012 election because the red still falls 2 votes short. It also fails to take into account that a change in candidate that brings out the alleged "solid conservative base" can peel off some of the centrists.

I cannot remember the last time i voted for a president and I am really sick of holding my nose and just voting against the damned democrats.

Yup,maybe this year will be different.

I was a precinct captain for Cruz, no caca.

Did you spread the word about Ben leaving the campaign?

We never heard a word about it and I'm in Des Moines. I don't believe it was widespread. I watched the count and there were 3 votes for Ben in my precinct.

As a I figured much to do about not much

BUT,BUT what about the fact that Rubio's team sent out the same info about Carson?

How is it that that gets overlooked?

Must not fit with the program.

First I heard it, but that's because the evil anti-Cruz forces on here don't want us to.

Uber-classy.

Typical for the Illinausea Klansman.

Calvin and I may disagree on a couple things, but that dude is one of the best on here. He's a devout Christian (in the way many others should be), a devoted family man, has his head on straighter about finances than most twice his age, and works his ass off. I'd gladly buy that guy a beer and be honored to shake his hand. Any SOB that wishes his boat to sink on him over something as trivial as an online political dispute isn't worth the whale schit Calvin's boat sails through.

most of the non-voters weren't voting anyway. Its a matter of the effort not the choices.

And somehow they think that not voting means they had no input to the choice made. Default to the worst case is stupider than a best bad choice.

Teddy Roosevelt understood this...

+1 Wishing death upon someone is not ever a good thing

It's just a childish effort to get attention, much like threatening suicide. Otherwise they would just do it.

No, there are several that deserve that wish, but I won't type it due to NSA snooping.

Too much credit is given to those who say they don't vote because of their conscience.

Mostly it's because they're too lazy to make the effort, or too drunk to leave the house.

Gantry was a fictional musing from the mind of a communist, Joe left a career as a judge to go fight totalitarians, and came home and did battle with the Fifth Column in his own land. The Soviet Venona Papers totally vindicated his claims to such.

So much for appearing "knowledgeable". You're likely as big of a dullard as the OP.

I am not defending what Cruz did, I don't care that much either way either about it, but I have to ask why would someone of some apparently high level in Ben Carson's campaign choose such a critical time, while people are still out voting, to issue such an unusual and somewhat ambiguous press release about Carson taking a couple of days off to return home for a break, skipping NH and SC in the process?

The press release itself was a little odd in that most candidates are apparently busy campaigning during this time...there was NO reason I can see to release this statement at that time...it had nothing to do with Iowa, and even if Cruz had never done anything, if a major network had broadcasted it, I can't see it being helpful to Carson in any way. It isn't that hard to see how the press release could be viewed as Carson's campaign winding down, even if that was untrue.

The point is, why would anyone from Carson's staff think it was helpful or useful to issue a statement like that, when it could easily have been released the next day, or even later that evening after the primary had closed.

Carson's pissed at the turn of events, not so much at the Cruz campaign for running with it, but the way it all unfolded. Trump's the one pushing it, and if he wasn't viewed as the little boy who cried wolf on so many other non-issues, he might have had something.

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Joe McCarthy's a positive. After all he was proven right. As to the Elmer Gantry, I'm reconsidering. I just found out he's a Baptist. Never heard of a Cuban Baptist.....

Hey Jorge, Trump made it to the first primary!




Dave