Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
That's the problem....we're voluntarily going back to the frangible cup & core bullets we had to use 50 years ago.

Friends don't let friends shoot VLD's at big game.

Originally Posted by smokepole
The other argument is, shoot what you want and what works for you and be happy with your choice. But don't run down others' choices because they don't work like you think a bullet is supposed to work based on what the "ideal bullet" was 50 years ago.



I tend to agree with Mike and have often stated that I think most if not all animals I've taken in the last 35 years could have been taken with my .22-250 and a 40g varmint bullet. The one exception that comes to mind immediately is a mulie buck at about (from memory, don't quote me) 150 yards. I was going for a quartering away shot and the buck stepped forward and turned just as the trigger broke. The result was a shot to the ham and a North Fork bullet that was recovered from up against the sternum. It is quite possible a 40g varmint bullet would have done so much damage that the buck would have gone down or stopped or at least proceeded slowly enough that I could have put more 40's into him until the job was done but that's not the kind of harvest I even like to think about.

When it comes to bullet choice, and while I have had discussions in which I've tried to present both sides fairly, I've never recommended a Berger to anyone. If others choose them that's OK by me. I'll continue to recommend any of many other choices first, with a select few where high impact velocities are possible.


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