I swear I don't get some of the shyt I read on here. With all the chest pounding I see on here about what great shots everyone is, how they shoot so much more than average Joe, are expert handloaders and supposedly such great hunters that they're practically Daniel Boone, Jim Bridger and Buffalo Bill all rolled into one, yet they can't kill deer dependably with a .243. What gives ? I've killed a pile of deer with cheap azz Wal-Mart .243 factory loads from Remington, Federal and Winchester as Well as Handloads with 100 gr. Hornady IL, 95 gr Hornady SST's and 85 gr. Sierra BTHP's with nary a hitch or complaint. But then I've killed another big pile with a .223 and ordinary 55 gr. sp's with zero problems or comlaints either. Could it be that some of the expert hunters and marksmen here just ain't quite as good as they claim ? Nah, couldn't be. I must just be lucky I guess.