Believe it or not, velocity will still work to 450 yards. 40-50 grain bullets from a Swift or 22-250 will still work fine. 450 yards is farther than most people realize, but still within the realm of a stock barrel and light bullets...
This has been my experience as well. A quality rangefinder that will pick up these small targets at 400 plus yards, should be considered.
My experience has been that on small targets, a 223 reaches as far as I can effectively lay down fire, and that's around 400 yards.
He's a much better shot than me, regularly participating in Precision Rifle events, etc.
I'm only taking a 17 HMR and a 223 AR.
