no to the hornady, but I concur on the SST being fragile. I had a bad experience a few (10) years back, and my mom did this past season. they may be fine for many, but empirical evidence to me says stay away, there are plenty of other options. hence why I go with the VLD's and NBT's for hunting. no cup and core, sst or ttsx (although those that use the ttsx I've seen worked great). I just haven't had reason to change. I hand load everything though so my preference might not work for everyone.
