Thanks for the help Boise. Sounds like I am trying to use too fine of grit for one thing. Put a new 120 belt on the Work Sharp and will try to get your feather edge and go from there. Totally off topic, I have a beautiful old (1920's?) Collins double bitted falling axe that is so hard, it rings when you hit a knot, a good Nicholson file just slides off it. So, same general technique you think?