Between my 2 sons and I we have used a 300 Win and 2 300 Wbys for all our elk the past 15yrs. With the exception of 2 being taken with 180gr TTSXs and one with 180gr TB tipped, all the rest have been with 168 TTSXs, which became our favorite many years ago. From 25yds to almost 500yds, they get the job done with no problems. Pushed to about 3300fps in the Wbys and 3200 in the Win mag they leave nothing to be desired. We experimented with the 180gr TB tipped in one rifle this past season and it performed very well on a big 6x6. Still prefer the Barnes but couldn't knock the TB.