Only thing I have to add is I've NEVER had a smooth mossberg. Every 870 including fairly recent ones have been MUCH smoother. Not wingmaster smooth but smoother.

That said never shot these short ones and can't quite think of a need for one at the moment but tommorrow is another day. It would be a Rem if I decided FWIW. Take my chances and all.

Kind of like Douglas barrels. I've yet to have one that drove tacks so after 3 or 4 I just gave up on em.. mossberg same...

We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....