Deerstalker - that is quite a story & very noteworthy! That's something that should be published in a magazine! Glad you came out of it "okay", even though the pain continues to this day.

As for the 357 loads, thanks to everyone for the input. I did load up some 180 xtp bullets driven by H110 powder. It's a very stout load, but still manageable. I think these loads will be very adequate for black bear defense.

BUT, in the meantime, I did pick up a 5" Smith and Wesson 629 (44 mag). I've always wanted a pre-lock 5" 629, and it just worked out that I found one at the right time for the right price. Obviously, it's the clear winner in caliber, but I think the 4" 357 will still be my daily companion in the woods. The 44 will get to come out (in a chest holster) when there's a dead animal on the ground, with a VERY good chance that a bear has also found the kill site.

Again, thanks for all of the input.