Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Reloder28
The 51st state should be Jefferson.


Exactly what I was thinking. Rather than simply vote down the Dems ploy, the GOP should (but I know won't) counter with a presentation of the facts about states that are controlled by urban liberals. California is a perfect example. If DC is made a state, then there should be at least one new conservative-majority state carved out of California. Maybe even extend it through Oregon and Washington and into Nevada. That new state would come into creation with a good number of Congressional Representatives cleaved out of CA, OR, WA and Nevada and the two new senators would counter the two DC would get.

If the argument is that the people of D.C. don't get certain elements of representation due to the fact that they aren't a state, then the same argument goes for all of those landlocked conservatives in liberal states.



There's a few folks around these parts that would agree with that.

The Modoc has been part of Washington, Utah, and Nevada territories before. And a part of other counties here too.

It would be nice to become part of the 51st State.

The name "Jefferson" might not fly though. As much as I hate the idea of that kind of PC crap.

The last statement there is why a lot of guys in real Red States don't trust y'all. Sorry, because I like you, but these liberal ideas in liberal places just seem to infect people. Same reason Minneapolis residents that claim they are conservative aren't welcome in Kansas or Oklahoma or the like. Y'all cave on the very name of your so-called Conservative answer to the urban areas of Cali that you folks say run everything, but you're willing to give up the name that it has been known by for YEARS. It's just a name, but without that, what do you got?