The 6.5CM is a good one, I finally succommed and got one on trade. As a hand loader, much of the advantage is lost for me. I have owned and still have several 6.5's. The 6.5CM really does nothing better than my 6.5X57 or 6.5X55 will do. The new powders and bullets apply to the older ones as well. I find no real advantage in velocity or accuracy between them. For factory ammo, then yes the 6.5CM wins this race. The T3X 6.5CM will be for sale soon.