Yeah, the same outfit that replaced the 1911 with the M9 and the Model 70 with the 700......All in the name of 'less recoil". Frankly, any discussion of "recoil" when discussing the 308, is laughable. Hey, if you like the cartridge then good for you, but just don't try to tell me that it's "better" than what i use. Yean I know people keep telling me they hunt big game with a 223, 22-250, 243, etc and they are really no difference between them and a 300 Mag or even a 308 given proper or equal shot placement, but sorry, I'm not buying...

Last edited by jorgeI; 12/15/20.

A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”