Yeah I don't see the point of letting murderers live - they have forfeited any "right" to rehabilitation. Their victims don't get any further chances for anything. On Australia Day here in Brisbane we had a juvenile on drugs in a stolen car kill a young couple (the woman also happened to be pregnant) - they can't release his name because he is a juvenile and they have to protect his identity. I kinda thought he would forgo any special treatment because he killed innocents. We need the death penalty down here.