Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by dale06
Probably just a small detail, but I always heard that the shot(s) reduced the effect of covid but didn’t necessarily prevent one from getting it.


Then it's not a vaccine, is it?


It is for people that understand what a vaccine does and doesn't do. This isn't difficult material to grasp.
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert
Originally Posted by MikeReilly
Originally Posted by Ray_Herbert

So can you say vaccines are the reason? No, you can't.

Sure I can and with a decent amount of evidence to that effect. Israel reported 64% for a short period and not a huge sample size, other jurisdictions said 88% vs. delta and delta+. Even Israel stated 93% prevention of hospitalisation and serious illness with their current run of variants. The evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of vaccination.



So in short, no. What would the current situation be without vaccines? How about the Spanish flu? That seemed to peter out in about the same time frame, no vaccine.

Again, no surprise when something burns through and peters out. Same as it's ever been. Besides, it's difficult to talk anyone serious that uses a U in favor.


I'm guessing you really struggled in high school, if you ever made it that far because you are a fecking idiot.

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