Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Originally Posted by auk1124
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper

We ask that You will show them to be but mortal men and bring into their lives that which may make them consider the evil they do here each week.


Do you seriously think that people on here are evil?

I don't know the personal lives of any here. However, I'm told that I will know them by their fruit. That includes the fruit of their words as Jesus Himself described. He hated most those who defied Him in turning the lost from His gift of life. What greater harm is done than that of standing in the Way of others getting the gift of heaven to suffer forever. If that is not evil, then tell me what it is?
Jesus and God never hated anyone. Look at 1st John 3-15 and 4-20. There are a few hundred other verses that prove that. That said, God most certainly hates all evil and a lot of these foolish creatures of Satan are most certainly evil, which is defined as anything that contradicts the Holy Nature of God. Now, we are all sinners but if we believe all sin is forgiven if our hearts are pure and realizes, condemns, and asks for forgiveness for any evil we perceive we have. Those who won't will not have forgiveness and their reward will be Hell for eternity. This is why we should just leave them to themselves. They are spiteful hateful deviants trying to be funny. Do not humor them.

I can agree with you about that at the end. The problem is that they are the ones pursuing, not the other way around. I leave them to themselves and normally keep my mouth shut as to the sins unless there's some serious blasphemy or attempts to keep others from the good news. This is clearly an active habit that developed and this thread has already become an example of it before happy hour at the bar.
I need to point out several things that are not personal attacks, but only disagreement that I think might be something we believers need to consider and ask ourselves. I had to learn this and did not always understand these principles.
I respectfully disagree with a couple of your points.

You said ,
"...if we believe all sin is forgiven if our hearts are pure and realizes, condemns, and asks for forgiveness for any evil we perceive we have..."

Jeremiah 17:9
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

There's no " if" when it comes to whether or not our hearts are pure. The unbeliever is incapable of a pure heart. In fact they don't even realize how desperately wicked it is.

This is why everyone needs a Savior.
This included Mary, the mother of Jesus' humanity to whom someone prayed to, only to make a railing false accusation.
A man can chant like a pagan to Mary and turn around and use Jesus' holy Name in the most blasphemous way that nobody should have to read! I hate that. What about you?
Did you know that God is angry with the wicked every day?

Faith in the Savior apart from purifying our hearts is what the Bible tells unbelievers to do. Most claiming to know Him mix grace with works, which is unacceptable with the Lord.
Once He is made the sole Object of that trust, the gift of life is then given at that moment, never to be removed.

Certainly God loves. I would like to see believers boldly share the love of God with everyone. Too often I see them step back passively while the troll village gets together, crashes a good prayer thread or sermon thread. Is it that we believers just need to show more love to those who trample on anything a Christian says or quotes from God's Word?

If you care to do a word study, you'll find that there are many times God hates certain people for reasons that He is certainly justified in doing so. He wants believers to hate evil as well.

We are told to not be hypocrites in regards to this.
Fake love is that which is superficial and does not hate.

Romans 12:9
"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."

Amos 5:15
"Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph."

Psalm 97:10
"Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked."

Proverbs 616...
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. "

Psalm 11
"The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup."

Are those people that God still loves?
There's a point at which God can come to hate someone.
There are whole cities that God hated. Did He rain fire and brimstone upon the homosexual cities of Judges 19 done out of love for them?

The God hating sodomites didn't want to have anything to do with God. They just were focused on gang raping the new guys in town Genesis 19. When I read that, I hate that city. Should I love it?

When I share the free gift of everlasting Life that Jesus suffered and gave His life for, there comes a gang of arrogant trolls who do what some pharisees did in the gospels.
What do you think He thinks about that?

HC

Last edited by Happy_Camper; 10/26/21.