Yes, watching it.

Ol' Hef was a speedster for quite a number of years. Watching a couple of his old interviews they showed, his jaw was working back and forth just like some of the cranksters I've met. Of course, he had money for doctors and dentists and scheidt, so he didn't quite look as screwed up as a street tweeker.

A lot of them women got into it thinking it was going to be the "girl next door" thing, artsy showing off of a beautiful body. Many still just kids, never having been out in the real world. And not at all ready for what they were about to experience.

rene mentioned Hustler..................I'm thinking a gal would know what they were getting into wanting to be put in that magazine. Hefner cultivated the good clean image, with interesting non-sexual articles and interviews in the magazine. Turns out things weren't really that way at all, and if you watch the show you'll see he only got deeper and deeper into his depravity as he got older.

Someone else mentioned it..........money, power, drugs, and sex. And Hefner ended up with them all.


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?