Boy everybody I never expected all the responses! Welcome to all! I came over from o.a. as well but am really from huntingnet.com <BR>Eremicus, I'm going to try and find some Mntn. Quail here in Washington this fall, Never hunted them before but it sounds challenging, so while I'm out after Grouse I'll keep a ear open. An tips would be appreciated. What do they sound like anyways? Cafe' Racer I had problems finding birds in my areas also. Did find a<BR>few in Ellensberg though. I think their just rebounding from a low cycle. My friend has seen Quite a few Spruce, Blues & Ruffed in the Granite Falls area on the way to High lakes in recent weeks.