Dogman,<BR> The Reddog Cafe' is talking about is call a<BR>Red Setter. I own one and yes they're great little dogs. These Irish Field setters were brought back over 50 years ago from the ill-faited show dog status. They crossed a dog from Irish bloodlines with a Llewellin Setter and "walah" produced one "Red little Hot Rocket". I had the privelidge to run mine at one of the Carlson's large fields not too long ago and he loved every minute of it! Thanks again Keith!