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You’re going to hear people call this “hearsay.” It is not hearsay. It is direct testimony of contemporaneous things said in Hutchinson’s earshot about events that were taking place while she was listening.

Bullschit. He has a very poor understanding of hearsay or is flat out lying.

Hearsay is defined as, “An out of court statement offered for the truth of the matter asserted.”

Notice, that not once did she say that she heard Trump say anything. She always said that she was told he said this or that or that she heard these people say these things about Trump or about things Trump said.

So, are these out of court statements? Yes, obviously. Can they be used to prove that Trump said them or acted in accordance with them? No, they cannot be offered to prove that Trump said them as that such an attempt would clearly be for the truth of the matter asserted. Do they fit a hearsay exception? Not that I can see.

I guess technically the author is right if her testimony was being offered to prove that these agents had said these things. It could also be admitted to prove their state of mind. However, it could never be offered to prove that Trump said them.

It’s not even hearsay. It’s hearsay upon hearsay since it is allegedly someone reporting out of court what someone else allegedly said out of court.