Originally Posted by copperking81
We could post links to threads on this site that have more credibility than the chit links you constantly post. Maybe be a man for once and form your own opinion?

Someone is lying, who is lying is a matter of opinion at the moment and remains undetermined. I don't fear hearing both sides of an argument to figure out who is telling the truth, do you? "He said, she said" is where this stands at the moment, only one them has testified under oath so far.

Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.

There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.