I got some on my upper arms while I was in The Navy.I was not drunk when I got them and do not regret them.I was just proud to be in The Navy and not ashamed to show it.You can not see mine even with a short sleeve shirt on,but I could care less if some one did see them.Never been a main streamer that had to fit in with EVERYONE else.I have always been able to think for my self,have never been a criminal and worked my way through collage going to night school while raising a family.Sorry if I do not fit in to your images of a main stream guy.