This has been good for me. I've learned a bit and sorted out my own mind some more. If the rifle were going to be mine, as a reloader my head says 7-08 and my heart says 6.5 Creed. laugh

This is for a smallish young woman who has no idea what she wants, yet. I looked at some more rifles today, (Ruger American, two versions of Savage Axis, Remington, Browning, surprised at how much I liked the Mossberg Patriot Bantam). They gave me a heads up about a Christmas sale coming.

We are one week into a leisurely quest, and if the right deal comes along in .308 I can load it down for her, though long term she should depend on factory loads. Thanks to all for the input, much appreciated.