Thanks Fury, I shot alot of those Speer 270s out of my first 9.3x62. Mainly was because I could get them then (late 90s) I like the old semi-pointed, round-nose bullets, makes me feel all warm inside, ha. The rifle I'm having set up only has a 22" barrel. I might be better off trying those Speer 275s in another Win Mag. I was just wondering if they would work on elk out to 250yds or so when started at 2400 (very doable in the 22")