Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Pharaoh first chose to operate against God,
and only after this did God choose to harden his heart.
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So pharaohs heart was hardened through divine intervention...free will you say?

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Jesus followed his father's will because it is his nature to do so,
but he isn't an example of an ordinary man.
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Actually Jesus sounds very ordinary , his personal expressed desire
was to avoid crucifixion like most rational mere mortals would.

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Even in the Garden of Gethsemane, where it appeared that there was a division between his will and that of the Father, he (even in his human nature) ultimate chose God's will as his own.

"Not my will, but thine be done."

Jesus became subordinate to the will of the Father.
If he really had free will, Big Daddy would have cut
him loose from crucifixion when Jesus asked that
cup be passed on from him.


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