I use the 35 Bergers with H-110 and 4227 in the Hornet and 218 Bee, plus the 222 and 222R the little 35s detonate on the front side of a soda can at 100. Has fragments holes through the back side after detonation inside. Vey devastating little bullet. will do 3,500 at .2 with the 222s Deer w ear hole drops like was struck by lightning