I shoot "silly-wet", and clays at over 500 regularly, with more than one rifle that I own.

If I knew the yardage, and was shooting the right rifle, no problem at all.

But I don't hunt with those particular rifles, my favorite hunting rifle is a .58 Hawken, and this year I am training with an iron sighted Ruger No.1 in 7X57, which, incidently I can nail a 1 gallon jug of water at 200 meters with a 160 grain bullet, and a pop can a 50 yards right after that.

From the kneeling position.

The ram at 500 meters is very close to the depth of a smallish deer, and I have seen more than a few go down from the standing position .

from the kneeling they are easy, and from prone, a cinch.

BUT, the distance is known, and the target static( not moving)

catnthehat


scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!