So how can the CC be substandard for load hauling according to ELK REAPER, but the 6500 be ok? Same frame, same load lifter placement. Sounds like talking out of both sides of the mouth. Either the NICE frame is an excellent load hauler or it isn't. How can a 6500 carry better than a 5000 on the same NICE frame with the same dreaded load lifter placement?