I tried 210 NPs at 2900, and 250 NP's at 2600 (thats all I could get out of my 24 inch Ruger) then tried the 225 NP's when they first came out about 20 years ago. 1/2 inch moa at 2830 fps over 72.5 gr. of H4350. I loaded 40 bullets and ran out of them after 10 years and 5 elk. Best damn cartridge I've ever built. I haven't reloaded since my last move, but if I did I'd load these in a heartbeat. I'm too slow to jump on the new equipment bandwagon, but a couple of friends swear by the Nosler Accubond.