Originally Posted by slowmover12
In the thread I did not see mention of the Ramshot powders. Has anyone worked with Big Game or Hunter with the Whelen? I would think Big Game should show promise. Any ideas are appreciated. I have a good supply of both powders and am looking for loads.


Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 225, Nosler AccuBond 50712
Useable Case Capaci: 57.585 grain H2O = 3.739 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Ramshot BigGame

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 54.27 2454 3009 42217 6785 94.7 1.298
-09.0 100 54.87 2482 3078 43698 6861 95.2 1.279
-08.0 101 55.48 2510 3148 45235 6935 95.6 1.259
-07.0 102 56.08 2538 3219 46834 7007 96.1 1.240
-06.0 103 56.68 2566 3290 48494 7076 96.5 1.221
-05.0 105 57.29 2594 3362 50225 7142 96.9 1.202
-04.0 106 57.89 2622 3435 52021 7206 97.2 1.184
-03.0 107 58.49 2650 3509 53894 7266 97.6 1.166
-02.0 108 59.09 2678 3584 55843 7324 97.9 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 109 59.70 2706 3659 57873 7378 98.2 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 60.30 2734 3735 59988 7429 98.5 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 60.90 2762 3812 62193 7477 98.7 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 61.51 2790 3889 64495 7522 99.0 1.081 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 113 62.11 2818 3968 66890 7563 99.2 1.065 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 62.71 2846 4047 69405 7600 99.4 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 116 63.32 2874 4126 72026 7634 99.5 1.033 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 60.30 2860 4086 72842 7187 100.0 1.035 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 60.30 2560 3275 48771 7256 92.4 1.218


Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 250, Nosler PART SP 44801
Useable Case Capaci: 59.664 grain H2O = 3.874 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Ramshot BigGame

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 95 54.00 2362 3096 42447 6977 96.7 1.356
-09.0 96 54.60 2387 3163 43886 7048 97.1 1.336
-08.0 97 55.20 2413 3232 45374 7117 97.5 1.316
-07.0 98 55.80 2439 3301 46918 7183 97.8 1.297
-06.0 99 56.40 2464 3371 48519 7246 98.1 1.278
-05.0 100 57.00 2490 3441 50179 7306 98.4 1.259
-04.0 101 57.60 2515 3512 51902 7363 98.6 1.240
-03.0 102 58.20 2541 3583 53690 7418 98.9 1.222
-02.0 104 58.80 2566 3656 55547 7469 99.1 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 105 59.40 2592 3728 57473 7517 99.3 1.187 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 60.00 2617 3802 59478 7562 99.4 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 107 60.60 2642 3875 61560 7604 99.6 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 61.20 2667 3950 63724 7642 99.7 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 109 61.80 2693 4025 65976 7677 99.8 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 62.40 2718 4100 68320 7708 99.9 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 111 63.00 2743 4176 70759 7736 100.0 1.089 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 60.00 2724 4118 72074 7243 100.0 1.090 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 60.00 2463 3368 48281 7516 94.8 1.276

Cartridge : .35 Whelen
Bullet : .358, 275, Woodleigh PP WeldCore 53B
Useable Case Capaci: 58.602 grain H2O = 3.805 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Ramshot BigGame

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 94 52.22 2262 3124 43240 6832 98.0 1.409
-09.0 95 52.80 2286 3190 44686 6895 98.2 1.388
-08.0 96 53.38 2309 3257 46184 6956 98.5 1.368
-07.0 97 53.96 2333 3324 47733 7014 98.8 1.348
-06.0 98 54.54 2357 3392 49339 7069 99.0 1.329
-05.0 99 55.12 2381 3461 51003 7121 99.2 1.310
-04.0 100 55.70 2404 3529 52728 7171 99.4 1.291
-03.0 101 56.28 2428 3599 54517 7217 99.5 1.273
-02.0 102 56.86 2451 3669 56371 7261 99.7 1.255 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 103 57.44 2475 3739 58296 7301 99.8 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 104 58.02 2498 3810 60294 7338 99.9 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 105 58.60 2521 3881 62368 7372 99.9 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 106 59.18 2544 3953 64521 7403 100.0 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 107 59.76 2568 4025 66757 7431 100.0 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 108 60.34 2591 4098 69081 7455 100.0 1.153 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 109 60.92 2614 4171 71501 7478 100.0 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 104 58.02 2591 4098 72850 7004 100.0 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 104 58.02 2360 3402 48881 7401 96.2 1.328


Big Game looks pretty good to me, especially with the heavier bullets. Never thought of trying it, but I will be looking forward to Gerry's load work with the 275 Woodleighs. Those seem like a serious load for heavy game.. Loads like that would make old Elmer smile!


Semper Fi