I had a Kimber 84M in 7MM-08 that was the biggest piece of crap I every owned. Did the same as RiverRider with bullets,powder, even put one of my 36X Leupold on it and the best I could get out of it was 3". I even took one of 6PPC to the range with me when shooting the Kimber to make sure its wasn't me and it wasn't. It went down the road in a hurry then I bought 2 each Remington Ti in 7MM-08 and 30-06 and been happy since. Should of got the Remingtons in the first place and saved myself from getting p!ssed off