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I love how you clown are convinced you know more than the bullet manufacturers about their bullets. Real pieces of work, you two  I love how you get all your information from bullet manufacturers. Do you really think Nosler is going to tell you to use a cheap ballistic tip when they went to all the expense and trouble of designing bullets they can sell for twice the price to idiots like you who parrot their web page marketing blather? If you'd be impoverished by buying a box of accubonds, you've got bigger problems than just being clueless in this thread. The cost of bullets is trivial compared to the other expenses involved in hunting, no matter what bullet you use. Dumb ass, I'm talking about bullet companies pushing their "premium" bullets on numbskulls like you, to them it makes a huge difference when they sell a product that costs twice as much. As far as being impoverished, if you ever want to make a wager on whose W-2 has more zeroes on it, just let me know.
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I will also say I'm less impressed with the "big bore" A-Frame design than the < .35 cal version. They made it a lot softer, which is not necessarily a good idea on the kinds of game larger bore guns get used on. Here is your quote bob,the way I read this is you have used big bore SAF on animals.
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Ooh, big man You're the one whining about bullet prices. Sad!
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Where are some pics of the animals you have killed,one pic would be a great start.
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I will also say I'm less impressed with the "big bore" A-Frame design than the < .35 cal version. They made it a lot softer, which is not necessarily a good idea on the kinds of game larger bore guns get used on. Here is your quote bob,the way I read this is you have used big bore SAF on animals. Well, you've changed your mind now! If there's one constant in this thread, it's that you're completely confused.
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Yeah,sure bob. Another pic of an animal I've killed. ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/o1J4BZ8.jpg)
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Ooh, big man You're the one whining about bullet prices. Sad! No, not whining about prices at all bobby, where'd you come up with that? The Nosler website? LOL. I'm just glad there are guys like you who fall for the hype and buy a whole box of"premium"bullets every year. Keeps the prices down on the non-premiums for those who buy in bulk. You sure backed off the "impoverished" bullsh** though didn't you. All hat, no cattle is right. All jerk, and no off.
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Your poor grasp of the situation seems to be bottomless. Why the hell would anyone need to buy a whole box of bullets every year just to hunt?
And your attitude is pure poverty. Are you worried Trump will cut off your housing relief and food stamps?
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Why the hell would anyone need to buy a whole box of bullets every year just to hunt? Comedy gold!!!!
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He won't shoot a box of bullets in his lifetime, but he'll read 22 books about it.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Who needs books when you have the Nosler website?
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All sizzle and no steak, all bark and no bite, all pussy and no claws...
This guy isn't worth a single reply. He's off in la-la land while the rest of us go outside and actually use things and kill critters with actual bullets. But at least he gets to read about it on the Nosler website...
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As them Texicans are so fond of saying, "All hat, no cows"...
Tell the Dolly Llama that if the critter be deceased, ya don't need no bloody trail.
Just whup out yo sharp blade, go to carving up the carcass...
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I'm a match bullet kind of guy.....but I follow these steps:
Learn how to hunt..
Learn how to shoot..
Learn when to shoot..
Learn where to shoot..
It's actually pretty simple.
Luck....is the residue of design... ![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/96zvyt.gif)
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I know what to expect after all this time but I do get tired of the attitude.
"I've got NO experience with the question at hand but I'll tell you, you're doing it wrong."
A reasonable comment would be, "I've got NO experience with that"
Or maybe, "I'm more comfortable with XXXX"
I do hate the "Off Season"...
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You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend."
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Call Swift if you don't believe me. They also show terminal info on the website showing the big bores are softer. They're designed for a minimum impact velocity about 300 ft/s lower. Call swift!! Call nosler!! God damn your funny Call mommy,call daddy! "Collect call from Pinedale Wyoming...." LOL. Yep.
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I'm a match bullet kind of guy.....but I follow these steps:
Learn how to hunt..
Learn how to shoot..
Learn when to shoot..
Learn where to shoot..
It's actually pretty simple. You've learned well, Grasshopper.
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Just whup out yo sharp blade, go to carving up the carcass...
DF
That, and shut yer yap. You might learn something.
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When a bullet produces no exit wound (and in fact has no mechanism to produce one unless it fails to expand) that's a failure. Less blood loss, so you get animals going much further, and no blood to track so you're much less likely to figure out where they went.
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There is so much wrong with this I hardly know where to start. Anyone that has read my posts over the last few years knows I'm not a fan of Berger bullets. Yes, they can kill and do so in a dramatic fashion. The problem I have with them is I want a bullet that will penetrate more deeply than even Berger claims if faced with a wounded or possibly wounded animal heading away in high gear. My choices include, in no particular order, North Fork SS, Barnes MRX and TTSX, Nosler AccuBond, Swift A-Frame and Scirocco II. Generally I get an exit wound with these bullets. Generally but not always. I've never lost an elk or any other animal when they didn't exit, nor did I have to track them as they went straight down or down within a few steps.
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