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#12151736 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: JGRaider]  
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Good heavens.....can you at least hold off on the ankle biting til we sign off?

Shadow expert.

Originally Posted by JGRaider
I bet this is doing wonders for his outfitting business.



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#12151748 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: scenarshooter]  
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Key word.....WAS.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by Alamosa
Evidently allowing Iowa hunters to use rifles may jeopardize the practice of party hunting (filling someone else's tag).

http://www.iowasportsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=686047

Nevertheless, even in a state where rifle hunting is extremely limited experts offer the mountain states hunters free advice.


But he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express...


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#12151906 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: chamois]  
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Originally Posted by chamois
This has been explained over and over again but sometimes you simply canĀ“t drive a donkey to the water regardless how thirsty he is.

The killing mechanism of the VLD is totally different to other bullets; It will drill the first 2-3 inches of tissue (any tissue, including bone) without any expansion and will then blow up causing massive destruction. If the animal you're shooting is big enough this massive destructions will happen inside the animal and if it is not big enough you will have a horrible exit hole.

I have used them extensively on cull hunts in South Africa and Namibia and know they are efficient killers and this is something unargueable. The proof being in the pudding.

Shooting so many animals, from Springbucks to Zebras with them, I have eventually had one or two do a funny thing inside, though always killing the animal.

If you think you need an exit hole to kill an animal you should use large caliber cartridges loaded with solids.

Or, if you think how well a bullet kills is dependent on the looks of a recovered bullet (VLDs will normally look horrible!) then you should only use low velocity loads with monolithics, partitioned, bonded, etc. bullets.



But, but, but....chamois......................that African game is not the same as our ceramic armored kevlar skinned elk ...........................how dare you compare those facts (dead animals) to our internet hunter (hunt and peck) experience......... wink....... laugh laugh


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#12152626 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: weaselsRus]  
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Mike is apparently an expert at uploading Barney Fife photos and memes. That much we can give him.


Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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#12152654 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: bellydeep]  
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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Mike is apparently an expert at uploading Barney Fife photos and memes. That much we can give him.


He's a huge fan, calls himself "Mr. Furley."



A wise man is frequently humbled.

#12152763 - 07/17/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: weaselsRus]  
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All this talk about these "tough" elk have got me scared.... I'm thinkin 375 mode....

#12153189 - 07/18/17 Re: 7mm 140 Berger Hunting VLD for elk [Re: weaselsRus]  
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1. Get a rifle.
2. Pick a load.
3. Learn to shoot it.
4. Choose your shots based on your ability.

99% of problems solved.


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