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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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In the video, did some notice they were not going light on the firepower?...

Looked like about .30 caliber bore. But the shell kinda resembled a Swede.



30-06 is pretty popular over there. They are hitting most of these boars high shoulder which makes it even more amazing. I am loving those SAUER 404 rifles but seriously doubt I would put an aim point on it though.

Yeah, lots of spine shots looked like.

I local shop had a Sauer 22 on display that was really nice. No Sauer centerfires. But an unusual Steyr Scout with forearm that folded down into a bipod, with a Z3 mounted.
I kinda like the CZ550 too.

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They also miss. The misses just don't make the cut...

The box of shells on the blind was 7mm Mag. I didn't see a belt on the shells being ejected in the first scene....


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The safety is a little different for sure. Friend has a 202 in 6.5x55 going to look at it and see what the differences are.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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PS when you find yourself calling multiple people "[bleep]" simultaneously, chances are good that it ain't the other people....
Lotta fuggin dummies. Look in the mirror for exhibit #1. You obviously still don't get what I was saying about putting a 6x scope on a grouse gun. Dummy.



LOL, I get it just fine blackie, I just thought that what you said to Idaho Shooter was bullsh** and uncalled for. Your problem is, you don't know what you don't know. You have a very narrow point of view, some might say myopic. Every time a thread like this comes up, you manage to steer the discussion to what you know best, hunting whitetails in thick cover in the northeast. It's like clockwork. Well, I got a news flash for you, everyone everywhere doesn't hunt like you do. It's really common out west to shoot a grouse or two as targets of opportunity, like Idaho. said. It's not frowned upon like it is back east. Bowhunters do it as well as rifle hunters and some will bring an accurate.22 pistol along with a red dot just for that purpose.

You could mention "putting a 6X scope on your grouse gun" to Ia bunch of Idaho big game hunters and 99 out of 100 would think you'd have to be talking about a rifle, and 99% would think you were talking about shooting them on the ground or off a limb, because that's what they do.

Also because it's a totally foreign concept and they'd never seriously consider using a scoped rifle to wing shoot upland birds. And you want to say Idaho is the dummy and tell him to put down the bong.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
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PS when you find yourself calling multiple people "[bleep]" simultaneously, chances are good that it ain't the other people....
Lotta fuggin dummies. Look in the mirror for exhibit #1. You obviously still don't get what I was saying about putting a 6x scope on a grouse gun. Dummy.



LOL, I get it just fine blackie, I just thought that what you said to Idaho Shooter was bullsh** and uncalled for. Your problem is, you don't know what you don't know. You have a very narrow point of view, some might say myopic. Every time a thread like this comes up, you manage to steer the discussion to what you know best, hunting whitetails in thick cover in the northeast. It's like clockwork. Well, I got a news flash for you, everyone everywhere doesn't hunt like you do. It's really common out west to shoot a grouse or two as targets of opportunity, like Idaho. said. It's not frowned upon like it is back east. Bowhunters do it as well as rifle hunters and some will bring an accurate.22 pistol along with a red dot just for that purpose.

You could mention "putting a 6X scope on your grouse gun" to Ia bunch of Idaho big game hunters and 99 out of 100 would think you'd have to be talking about a rifle, and 99% would think you were talking about shooting them on the ground or off a limb, because that's what they do.

Also because it's a totally foreign concept and they'd never seriously consider using a scoped rifle to wing shoot upland birds. And you want to say Idaho is the dummy and tell him to put down the bong.
Gosh, I know all that ya fuuckin retard, I expected in a place like this full of big, well read, well travelled 'expert' hunters that a guy from Idaho aught to know we don't normally shoot grouse with rifles here. Now goddamit I can feel my IQ dropping just talking to your dumb ass so STFU and GO AWAY.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
These threads that turn into who’s full of shît running a gun are always fun...Some members here are beyond compare in their shooting skills - just amazing men with a rifle or shotgun...Who doesn’t appreciate hunting with a guy or group of pards that can shoot? Not many of us.

Sometimes it’s easy to determine who’s got the goods and who doesn’t...But, then there’s some members who are sneakers, that could go either way...Maybe good with a weapon, maybe not.

Most of us are excellent in a certain shooting style and situation based solely on our hunting environment we grew up with. Most of us didn’t start out as young hunters traveling the USA gaining different shooting skills that are required to be successful in a certain geographical area...The latter typically came later in our lives as time, money, and opportunity presented itself.

Personally, having had the opportunity to hunt in several states with different hunting environments presented challenges for me, I had to adapt to fill my tags...

I believe it’s much easier to take a skilled hunter who’s spent most of his hunting life in thickets and dense growth plantations where hitting game on the move is the norm “Not talking about whacking an animal at a feeder” and bringing them into the vast open spaces of the West where a shot can go north of 750 yards, and he’ll probably do alright, if his gear is up to the task.

The reverse isn’t as easy, in my experience. Being a Western hunter, and facing quick shots on game moving through dense surroundings is, and was challenging...I knew my limitations.

With that said, I’ve been with old dogs who reeked of whiskey in the morning. Grumpy, broken bodied, unimpressive sorts who wanted-needed whiskey in their coffee before loading up in the truck to hunt. They’d throw on a lightweight rain jacket covering their wool shirt and step out into a downpour of coastal rain and high wind...Looking to cut tracks on elk, then heading down into the timber. Minutes, hours later....Boom...Sometimes boom, wait, boom, wait, boom...Dead bull with all rounds accounted for inside the bull with only ever an occasional loss of a shoulder...

Old, broken dudes are never discounted in my eyes hunting...I’ve seen them change by simply putting a rifle or shotgun in their hands.

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Well said Beav, well written and pretty danged true.

Pass the 6x for still hunting or out west... I’ll take a plain old 2.5 or 4x for deer drives. whistle


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LOL, what's next blackie, "pronghorn hunting with the sweet sixteen?



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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Beaver10
These threads that turn into who’s full of shît running a gun are always fun...Some members here are beyond compare in their shooting skills - just amazing men with a rifle or shotgun...Who doesn’t appreciate hunting with a guy or group of pards that can shoot? Not many of us.

Sometimes it’s easy to determine who’s got the goods and who doesn’t...But, then there’s some members who are sneakers, that could go either way...Maybe good with a weapon, maybe not.

Most of us are excellent in a certain shooting style and situation based solely on our hunting environment we grew up with. Most of us didn’t start out as young hunters traveling the USA gaining different shooting skills that are required to be successful in a certain geographical area...The latter typically came later in our lives as time, money, and opportunity presented itself.

Personally, having had the opportunity to hunt in several states with different hunting environments presented challenges for me, I had to adapt to fill my tags...

I believe it’s much easier to take a skilled hunter who’s spent most of his hunting life in thickets and dense growth plantations where hitting game on the move is the norm “Not talking about whacking an animal at a feeder” and bringing them into the vast open spaces of the West where a shot can go north of 750 yards, and he’ll probably do alright, if his gear is up to the task.

The reverse isn’t as easy, in my experience. Being a Western hunter, and facing quick shots on game moving through dense surroundings is, and was challenging...I knew my limitations.

With that said, I’ve been with old dogs who reeked of whiskey in the morning. Grumpy, broken bodied, unimpressive sorts who wanted-needed whiskey in their coffee before loading up in the truck to hunt. They’d throw on a lightweight rain jacket covering their wool shirt and step out into a downpour of coastal rain and high wind...Looking to cut tracks on elk, then heading down into the timber. Minutes, hours later....Boom...Sometimes boom, wait, boom, wait, boom...Dead bull with all rounds accounted for inside the bull with only ever an occasional loss of a shoulder...

Old, broken dudes are never discounted in my eyes hunting...I’ve seen them change by simply putting a rifle or shotgun in their hands.

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Well said Beav, well written and pretty danged true.

Pass the 6x for still hunting or out west... I’ll take a plain old 2.5 or 4x for deer drives. whistle

Yeah, Ol Beav’ is well spoken.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
LOL, what's next blackie, "pronghorn hunting with the sweet sixteen?

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Man, you guys are tense tonight. Ya'll need some warm chocolate chip cookies and a glass of milk or sumthin'?

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I would not feel bad about a 6x w AO on a .22 rimfire or nice trim Hornet

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Wait until someone starts a thread: "What's the draw for a fixed 4x scope?"

Yikes. eek


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Learned a lot in this thread. Thanks for the insight, all.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter



The safety is a little different for sure. Friend has a 202 in 6.5x55 going to look at it and see what the differences are.



That safety design may soon cross an ocean....


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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter



The safety is a little different for sure. Friend has a 202 in 6.5x55 going to look at it and see what the differences are.



That safety design may soon cross an ocean....



Why SO?

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Originally Posted by smokepole
LOL, what's next blackie, "pronghorn hunting with the sweet sixteen?
Pardon me for talking about stuff I know about you moron.Guess you'd rather I talk out my ass like you and so many others here. Sorry but when I saw folks say stupid shyt like they've hunted a 6x from 10 to 500 yards and never found a situation where it was out of place and I know that's fuggin bullshyt I'm gonna say so. Some of you pompous fuuckin retatrds don't know as much as you think you do.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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The safety is a little different for sure. Friend has a 202 in 6.5x55 going to look at it and see what the differences are.



That safety design may soon cross an ocean....



Why SO?


The sear or rifle is not cocked until you push the tab or safety forward. Pushing the safety forward becomes our equivalent of lifting the bolt. Therefore while walking around, the sear is not hanging on its thin edge and the firing pin spring is in a relaxed position. Also until one pushes the safety forward, there is a blocker that prevents the firing pin from hitting the primer.

Our system is the rifle is cocked at all times. With this system the rifle is only cocked when you push the safety to the fire position.

If you end up not shooting, one partially moves the safety and lifts the bolt slightly, which un-cocks the rifle.

The Blaser line of rifles use the same system.

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For me it was simplicity. No fiddling with power settings.

I hunt MI swamps and farm fields. Figure 15 yards to 300 on the regular.

6x never inhibited my success.


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Originally Posted by battue
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Originally Posted by battue
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The safety is a little different for sure. Friend has a 202 in 6.5x55 going to look at it and see what the differences are.



That safety design may soon cross an ocean....



Why SO?


The sear or rifle is not cocked until you push the tab or safety forward. Pushing the safety forward becomes our equivalent of lifting the bolt. Therefore while walking around, the sear is not hanging on its thin edge and the firing pin spring is in a relaxed position. Also until one pushes the safety forward, there is a blocker that prevents the firing pin from hitting the primer.

Our system is the rifle is cocked at all times. With this system the rifle is only cocked when you push the safety to the fire position.

If you end up not shooting, one partially moves the safety and lifts the bolt slightly, which un-cocks the rifle.

The Blaser line of rifles use the same system.


I thought you meant an exact copy of that Sauer safety device, which IMHO is much different then most rifles on the market. If that were the only brand of rifle I owned I would acclimate to it , but having a few different brands currently the safety operation would not be as smooth. I think the Blaser safety is way better then what Sauer is offering. I do not like the protruding button in the trigger guard, IMHO a trigger guard should only contain a trigger.

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