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They went to him because they wanted to hold him for the police, as they had reason to suspect he was a serial burglar in their neighborhood.

I take it you meant that it DOES matter. At any rate, save your breath. That fugging mouth breather doesn’t know [bleep] about the law. It’s obvious from all the dumb schit he’s posted already. I put him on ignore. He’s just a rabid SJW and you can’t reason with a dumbass who only wants to see what he wants to.

The dead guy may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed.

What I saw on that tape was someone trying to avoid a guy with a shotgun and then rushing the guy out of desperation while tying not to get shot.

Whatever happened I see two guys reacting to a sudden situation without having the time to think it through. I believe at times like that you fallback on your training but in this case neither side had any.

That’s what I see.

Others’ MMV

#dontgoeasy



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Or in this case apparently.....he should have surrendered peacefully to a bunch of januses with shotguns riding in the backs of pickups.

LeRoy. LeRoy takes that part.



For free...

If you weren't a racist, race would be irrelevant too.

Actually, it looks EXACTLY the same as Martin. White/Hispanic guy stops suspected criminal, suspect atacks him, gets shot. Is now good.

What is the difference you see?

The difference I see is that Trayvon Martin sneaked up on George Zimmerman who had not blocked his path or done any more than try to maintain observation of Martin. These two apparently aggressively cut off the jogger in an attempt to detain him. And then brandished a firearm to control the "suspect". George only pulled a concealed handgun at the last second after a stronger man was in the process of beating him senseless. George did not attempt to detain Mr. Martin and was in fact attacked by Martin who was miffed at being followed. That is a lot of difference. That said, I believe there was no original intent to kill the jogger but unless there is more to this than is now reported the 2 white men accosting him did so illegally. At least the driver/shooter did.

George was getting his butt kicked.....this current shooter idiot actually was too.

The kid laid a couple good pops in, and actually turned and started running down the street again before falling. Almost like some denial he was hurt badly.

Adrenaline likely kicked in.....but how was he still on his feet after 3 shots from a shotgun?

Obviously athletic and a tough one.

Would be interesting to see the blood report of the autopsy.

How did we ever get to the point where murderers spend decades on death row?

In 1933 a guy accidentally killed the mayor of Chicago. The mayor was sitting next to President-elect Roosevelt, who was the target. the shooter was executed 33 days later.

I doubt his previous record would be admissible in this case. Since this is a felony murder case, the question becomes, where the rednecks committing a felony, such as kidnapping, when they stopped this person at gunpoint.

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/17-4-60/
Here's the statute:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

But they were not police, and under georgia law, it appears they had no authority to do so:

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/17-4-60/

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

I took a few days to think over this incident, and read a few pages of comments prior to watching the video. Was very surprised at what the video actually showed. Must've been a different video than some of you watched.

I have no doubts that had the people involved all been white, to you hypocritical types it would've been: a few rednecks being stupid. Had they been all black, it would've been: great, three thugs off the street. Had it been blacks chasing down a white: outrage, and solidification and justification for your view of blacks.

I am not okay with people cruising around in a pickups performing citizens arrests, and then "defending themselves" when the cornered person resorts to violence; regardless of color. Would've been terrified to find myself in that man's situation. Shame on some of you guys. I've lost some faith today, but should I ever find myself facing a jury of you folks, I'll be glad I'm white!

Oh wait, I forgot, my opinion doesn't count, because I don't live near enough blacks. My Bad!

The average crime index for the country is 274 in the manner that City Data configures the numbers. Brunswick, Georgia's numbers were above 1000 in 2006 and 2007,..which is a totally obnoxious crime rate for a small town of 16,000 people.

Currently, the crime rate for Brunswick, Georgia is only about twice the national average,..which is still fairly obnoxious for a small town of 16,000.

Theft and burglary seems to be the primary factor pushing the numbers.

I expect to see the crime rate go back up through the roof after this hullabaloo.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Brunswick-Georgia.html

Well said. Definitely a huge double standard on this forum when it comes to blacks and whites.

No double standard here.

Just because most of the trash is of one type doesn't mean the other trash is non existent.

I'm see on the Indy news innocent folks being murdered quite often.
And most of the time it's by blacks.

Indy is a fuggin zoo.

A career in burglary is not without risk.

Sometimes burglars go to jail. On rare occasions they get shot.

A felony murder charge wouldn't apply to the actual shooter, would it? Usually that's reserved for the accomplices to the shooter, i.e., said accomplices were all engaged in a felony at the time a foreseeable victim was killed, even though they didn't directly cause it.