Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

If you had actually read my post before you asked this, you would see I don't place a great deal of value in any written christian text books as you describe.You would have also seen I placed the same question to you that you asked of me, and as usual you have ability to answer.

No, I mean defence. We don't use US spelling.

Too bad.

Matthew 7:13-14
New International Version
The Narrow and Wide Gates

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

I have not seen you say that before, nor directly say
that you doubt anything [or everything] in Bible.



Doubting catholic politics I don't deem as doubting actual
word of God scripture.

Do you believe the Bible is myth or True actual events?

Evolution must be real.Look at how the monkeys that just came out of the trees are acting in The BLM protests!!

People are sure jumping ship and swimming away from religion at an attention getting rate nowadays. Christianity especially. But I don’t think it’s because atheism is so appealing. I think it’s more likely because religion has lost its appeal. People once thought religion offered solutions. Nowadays, it appears that many people see it as a problem. I can’t blame em’ for it. There’s sure a lotta hate spewed at em’ in the name of God. It clearly is unattractive to those who are on the receiving end of it. Grace is supposed to be a hallmark of the Christian faith...but it seems to very often be sorely lacking by many who profess to be Christians. The faith of Christianity is certainly more appealing when the message of grace is most apparent.

What’s this got to do with evolution...?
Not a flippin’ thing...!
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Missing link under our nose?

I see some of the “hard time” issues. Frustrating and disappointing to be sure.

But, it does seem like you are working it out.

Maybe, as a suggestion, just forget others and the past ...... and just ponder about you and God. Just you two. Forget the rest of the world for awhile. I try to set aside some time each day..... sometimes I just think about myself, sometimes I ask God questions....Often I pray, for myself and for others...... sometimes I read the Bible....

sometimes I just sit and listen, let my thoughts drift.

All the best,

TF

Be still, and know that I am God.

Yes.

I have a great blessing. Almost every morning, I go outside on the patio and sit in a rocking chair. I have that time you refer to. My wife accuses me of wasting time but I tell her I am not. I sit and watch over a little acreage and a creek we have. I set a rifle on the table next to me and “hunt coyotes” for a couple of hours.

Ancient monotheistic Hebrews and christians
were also about control and power.

Atheism is about control and power. Don't believe it? Look at Dem party. The truth is that a nation of believers requires far less government than a nation of unbelievers who are unrestrained by any moral code. This point was made repeatedly by the Founders.

Pagans seemed to get along just fine when
it came to personal choice of Gods.

The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions
Like Egypt, Syria, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their
Gods.

You're missing the point: each of those societies/cultures/countries appealed to a diety or dieties and held a belief in an absolute moral code.

IN regards to power and control, pagans didnt
force their religious beliefs onto others, or go
to war over religious differences.

Those distanced cultures mentioned adopted each others dieties
or made their own version of the same , or made new hybrid mix
version dieties from the selection of their own and those introduced
to them by other pagan cultures... It was largely a case of seeing
Merit in other New dieties and the more gods the merrier approach.

INTELLECT and INTELLIGENCE should not be bundled
together as being the same thing... Folks who dont
know the difference best educate themselves.

Nor should intelligence be separated from
matters of the heart.

Proverbs 18:15
"An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear
of the wise seeks knowledge."

Is not your God then deemed a source of intelligence.?

Quotes from the bible can't be compared to fossil, geological strata, genetic and molecular evidence.

The moral code of Babylon differed to Sumer which differed to Judaism which was not the same as Greco Roman morality, which was not the same as ours. Similar principles, but not the same. Similarity does not make an absolute.

Similarity comes from existential conditions, death, property, family, friends, nation, state, tribe....

I have a hard time believing that. The priests of Zeuss never had a conflict with those of Apollo, or Mars, or Diana, or Athena etc, etc, over the best temple site or competed for accolytes????

Even the remaining mythology is full of competitions and outright battles between the gods of Greece/Rome.

We are well aware of battles fought and human sacrifice made to the gods of the S American indigenous peoples.

Polynesian cultures were also big on human sacrifice and yes, even cannibalism.

Those ancient Romans did not seem to be so friendly to the Judeo/Christian traditions when people started abandoning the old Roman Temples en masse and flocking to a new tradition. Hungry priests get vengeful and call upon all the power of civil authority.

Even the Crusades had little to do with religious conversions and much more to do with wealth, trade routes, and protection thereof. The wholesale slaughter of the peoples of South and Central America, and the catholicization of the remainder was much more to ensure a steady supply of labor for the Spanish Crown and income to The Church, than it was about the saving of souls.