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I doubt you actually know any more about the "Law" than you do of anything else.
Its your perogative to doubt what ever you choose. of course a Law dictionary could dispell your doubt. You havent actually detailed what christian text book beliefs you hold as true in your long winded response.. = still avoiding the question. All your responses are just attempts to grind your axe, like you usually do. If you had actually read my post before you asked this, you would see I don't place a great deal of value in any written christian text books as you describe.You would have also seen I placed the same question to you that you asked of me, and as usual you have ability to answer.
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Good point, but the high IQ types will say it isnt. Offence is not the same as defence. You mean defense? No, I mean defence. We don't use US spelling.
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Too bad.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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Reagan didnt lie, and I remember him correcting Ssm Donaldson saying, your folks may have come from monkeys, but mine didnt. What would make Reagan right and the vast majority of the worlds scientists wrong? Matthew 7:13-14 New International Version The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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If you had actually read my post before you asked this, you would see I don't place a great deal of value in any written christian text books as you describe.
I have not seen you say that before, nor directly say that you doubt anything [or everything] in Bible. I was raised in a strict Roman Catholic Family...... I began to doubt the policy (politics) of the church as "gospel"..
Doubting catholic politics I don't deem as doubting actual word of God scripture. Do you believe the Bible is myth or True actual events?
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Evolution must be real.Look at how the monkeys that just came out of the trees are acting in The BLM protests!!
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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People are sure jumping ship and swimming away from religion at an attention getting rate nowadays. Christianity especially. But I don’t think it’s because atheism is so appealing. I think it’s more likely because religion has lost its appeal. People once thought religion offered solutions. Nowadays, it appears that many people see it as a problem. I can’t blame em’ for it. There’s sure a lotta hate spewed at em’ in the name of God. It clearly is unattractive to those who are on the receiving end of it. Grace is supposed to be a hallmark of the Christian faith...but it seems to very often be sorely lacking by many who profess to be Christians. The faith of Christianity is certainly more appealing when the message of grace is most apparent.
What’s this got to do with evolution...? Not a flippin’ thing...! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Evolution must be real.Look at how the monkeys that just came out of the trees are acting in The BLM protests!! Missing link under our nose?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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There are many things in the Universe beyond our control. Here's a simple example: A single gamma ray burst too close to the earth and we are DONE, and there's nothing all of humanity could do about it.
They could pray to their god(s) to prevent such a catastrophe in the first place . . . Why would a loving god condemn a man of low intelligence because he didnt have faith? Because modern Christianity is about control and power. Note to johnn: Faith is not a matter intellect, but a matter of “the heart.” One does not have to be “intelligent” to develop a relationship with Jesus. I personally know some very fine Christian men that would not be thought of as “intelligent.” They are however, thought to be “wise.” Further, I have heard some say that a man who thinks himself to be “smart” is at a disadvantage when it come to salvation as his pride and ego get in the way. Maybe one would rather be dumb and humble than smart and prideful. Quite a few teachings on this in the Bible. Btw.... one does not have to understand how the earth was formed, created or what it is destined for to be saved. It’s a heart matter.... honest seeking, repentant, placing oneself before Jesus.... and asking. See justified tax collector or thief on the cross. Very well said, I do know of which you speak..... However I have had a hard time associating that I have rudimentary explored.... My personal experience with the bible is fraught with frustration trying to interpret, so therefore I distrust it what was written.... And I do not trust most organized religion. Some much wrong has been committed under the guise of religion that it is suspect. Self exam is my path.... And I need correction frequently..... there is something more than just the nerve endings in our asses that we seek to satisfy. As humans are a greedy selfish lot. And anyone that buys into a guaranteed afterlife is kidding themselves and a fakir. Is the promise of a afterlife the only thing that establishes one morals....? I see some of the “hard time” issues. Frustrating and disappointing to be sure. But, it does seem like you are working it out. Maybe, as a suggestion, just forget others and the past ...... and just ponder about you and God. Just you two. Forget the rest of the world for awhile. I try to set aside some time each day..... sometimes I just think about myself, sometimes I ask God questions....Often I pray, for myself and for others...... sometimes I read the Bible.... sometimes I just sit and listen, let my thoughts drift. All the best, TF
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Be still, and know that I am God. Yes. I have a great blessing. Almost every morning, I go outside on the patio and sit in a rocking chair. I have that time you refer to. My wife accuses me of wasting time but I tell her I am not. I sit and watch over a little acreage and a creek we have. I set a rifle on the table next to me and “hunt coyotes” for a couple of hours.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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Because modern Christianity is about control and power.
Ancient monotheistic Hebrews and christians were also about control and power.
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Atheism is about control and power. Don't believe it? Look at Dem party. The truth is that a nation of believers requires far less government than a nation of unbelievers who are unrestrained by any moral code. This point was made repeatedly by the Founders.
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Pagans seemed to get along just fine when it came to personal choice of Gods.
The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions Like Egypt, Syria, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their Gods.
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Pagans seemed to get along just fine when it came to personal choice of Gods.
The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions Like Egypt, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their Gods.
You're missing the point: each of those societies/cultures/countries appealed to a diety or dieties and held a belief in an absolute moral code.
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Pagans seemed to get along just fine when it came to personal choice of Gods.
The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions Like Egypt, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their Gods.
You're missing the point: each of those societies/cultures/countries appealed to a diety or dieties and held a belief in an absolute moral code. IN regards to power and control, pagans didnt force their religious beliefs onto others, or go to war over religious differences. Those distanced cultures mentioned adopted each others dieties or made their own version of the same , or made new hybrid mix version dieties from the selection of their own and those introduced to them by other pagan cultures... It was largely a case of seeing Merit in other New dieties and the more gods the merrier approach.
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Note to johnn:
Faith is not a matter intellect, but a matter of “the heart.” One does not have to be “intelligent” to develop a relationship with Jesus. I personally know some very fine Christian men that would not be thought of as “intelligent.”
INTELLECT and INTELLIGENCE should not be bundled together as being the same thing... Folks who dont know the difference best educate themselves. Nor should intelligence be separated from matters of the heart. Proverbs 18:15 "An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge." Is not your God then deemed a source of intelligence.?
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Reagan didnt lie, and I remember him correcting Ssm Donaldson saying, your folks may have come from monkeys, but mine didnt. What would make Reagan right and the vast majority of the worlds scientists wrong? Matthew 7:13-14 New International Version The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Quotes from the bible can't be compared to fossil, geological strata, genetic and molecular evidence.
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Pagans seemed to get along just fine when it came to personal choice of Gods.
The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions Like Egypt, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their Gods.
You're missing the point: each of those societies/cultures/countries appealed to a diety or dieties and held a belief in an absolute moral code. The moral code of Babylon differed to Sumer which differed to Judaism which was not the same as Greco Roman morality, which was not the same as ours. Similar principles, but not the same. Similarity does not make an absolute. Similarity comes from existential conditions, death, property, family, friends, nation, state, tribe....
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Pagans seemed to get along just fine when it came to personal choice of Gods.
The greeks, Romans. Gauls, and further east regions Like Egypt, Syria, Persia, etc,.didn't squabble over their Gods.
I have a hard time believing that. The priests of Zeuss never had a conflict with those of Apollo, or Mars, or Diana, or Athena etc, etc, over the best temple site or competed for accolytes???? Even the remaining mythology is full of competitions and outright battles between the gods of Greece/Rome. We are well aware of battles fought and human sacrifice made to the gods of the S American indigenous peoples. Polynesian cultures were also big on human sacrifice and yes, even cannibalism. Those ancient Romans did not seem to be so friendly to the Judeo/Christian traditions when people started abandoning the old Roman Temples en masse and flocking to a new tradition. Hungry priests get vengeful and call upon all the power of civil authority. Even the Crusades had little to do with religious conversions and much more to do with wealth, trade routes, and protection thereof. The wholesale slaughter of the peoples of South and Central America, and the catholicization of the remainder was much more to ensure a steady supply of labor for the Spanish Crown and income to The Church, than it was about the saving of souls.
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