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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: stxhunter] #14991530 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by stxhunter
the whole movie is a cheese game.

lmao cheddar

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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hanco] #14991548 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by hanco
The book is better!
It almost always is.......


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: IndyCA35] #14991552 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
It's kind of implausible. A Soviet spy satellite would have found the sub hidden in Maine very soon after that. The Russians would have called that an act of war.



We had a very good picture of what they could see and in what time frames.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hatari] #14991561 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by hatari
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Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...


I did read the book once upon a time, and enjoyed it. It does jump around from one scene to the next and doesn't all come togther until the climax. You go from Ryan to Dallas, to Red October to Sec of State each chapter as I recall.


I think Clancy was the one to popularize that kind of parallel storyline style of writing. I'd find myself caring a lot more about on story than another thread and then when they started merging having to go back and figure out what I missed!

None of Clancy's books ever really made a decent movie but the closest was Patriot Games.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...



Complete agreement. More texture, depth, side stories.




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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: 5sdad] #14991569 06/23/20
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The Lord of the Rings movies were as good as the books.



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Debt of Honor was prophetic. It predated 9/11 and had a Japanese airliner crashing into the capital building killing most of our government. I expect that this book inspired the Muslims who murdered 3,000 people on 9/11.

My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.



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Originally Posted by ConradCA
The Lord of the Rings movies were as good as the books.



Not by a long shot.




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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: ConradCA] #14991611 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by ConradCA
My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.

I agree 100%. His best book by far imo.

Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hatari] #14991681 06/23/20
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Speaking of movies, what the heck ever happened to that film where rednecks were kidnapped to be shot at by rich pinko liberals? The Hunt or something? That should be hitting theaters right about now, because I think what happens is the rednecks zap all the liberals.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: stxhunter] #14991702 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by stxhunter
the whole movie is a cheese game.

lmao cheddar


I see what you did there.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: jaguartx] #14991733 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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the whole movie is a cheese game.

lmao cheddar


I see what you did there.


Hell! 3D cheese game!


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hatari] #14991765 06/23/20
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If you have some spare time, read Clancey's "The sum of all fears". Damn long, but, damn good.

Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hatari] #14991777 06/23/20
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Read the book. All will be made clear.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: hatari] #14991794 06/23/20
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I have not read the book. Does it explain how the cook managed to be on board after "The Count" was correct when the crew was put off the sub?


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: ConradCA] #14991812 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by ConradCA
Debt of Honor was prophetic. It predated 9/11 and had a Japanese airliner crashing into the capital building killing most of our government. I expect that this book inspired the Muslims who murdered 3,000 people on 9/11.

My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.


Much of the detail in his books was.
He must of had some good sources.
A good measure of the quality is that you couldn't burn through his single authored stuff the way you can with the stuff written by his apprenti...
The detail was at a much higher level.

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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: Pugs] #14991824 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by Pugs
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Cook was a KGB agent. Answers first and last question.

Radiation issues were falsified by Ramius as excuse to get his men off the boat.


The book IS really much better, lest someone else take offense at humor...


I did read the book once upon a time, and enjoyed it. It does jump around from one scene to the next and doesn't all come togther until the climax. You go from Ryan to Dallas, to Red October to Sec of State each chapter as I recall.


I think Clancy was the one to popularize that kind of parallel storyline style of writing. I'd find myself caring a lot more about on story than another thread and then when they started merging having to go back and figure out what I missed!

None of Clancy's books ever really made a decent movie but the closest was Patriot Games.



I liked Clear And Present Danger. Killing drug dealers has always seemed like a good thing to me.

Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: 260Remguy] #14991835 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
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It's kind of implausible. A Soviet spy satellite would have found the sub hidden in Maine very soon after that. The Russians would have called that an act of war.


IIRC, in the book, they "hid" the Red October in Chesapeake Bay, not in Maine.


I think that would’ve been difficult. In warm weather there are small boats crossing every square inch of the Chesapeake. Don’t know about Maine.

But I thought it was a good movie.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: Daveinjax] #14991837 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
Originally Posted by ConradCA
My favorite Clancy book is Red Storm Rising. It portrays WW3 with the Russians attacking Europe.

I agree 100%. His best book by far imo.



Larry Bond did the heavy lifting writing that book, and he's done some good ones on his own, too. Bond is pretty good.


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Re: Hunt for Red October [Re: 5sdad] #14991874 06/23/20
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Originally Posted by 5sdad
I have not read the book. Does it explain how the cook managed to be on board after "The Count" was correct when the crew was put off the sub?


He went back to get something and the CPO didn't recount as they got into the rafts.


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